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Inshore for me most of the year. Comes in 100 yard spools and is the same price as the blue label. Thin tippets aren't good with Snook and Tarpon because they'll wear through them faster.

I do go to premium leader like the gold or cortland premium fluoro for winter time redfish. They get spooky and I know that's all I'll be targeting.
I tried countless times to use the inshore seagur in leaders, but I could never get knots to snug up right, I googled it and saw that the inshore doesn’t have the softer outside layer of the regular blue. Idk, it was a revelation for me, figured I’d pass it on. Obviously if it works for you, it’s way cheaper and that’s what I’d buy too.
 
I'm surprised this didn't come up before, but Seaguar invented fluoro. I find the blue label to be absolutely fantastic, and make all my leaders with it at home. One thing I like about it is that it seems a little stiffer than other flouro, which is great for turning over flies. In my pack when I'm wading or on the SUP, I have the small spools of Umpqua flouro, which I also like. I only use it because I dont want to carry all my spools of blue label (they're much bigger physically), and I make sure I carry all the lb test I need for a complete new leader if needed.
 
I tried countless times to use the inshore seagur in leaders, but I could never get knots to snug up right, I googled it and saw that the inshore doesn’t have the softer outside layer of the regular blue. Idk, it was a revelation for me, figured I’d pass it on. Obviously if it works for you, it’s way cheaper and that’s what I’d buy too.
Due to it's stiffness, tying knots with fluoro can be a little different. I've found that in general, I use less wraps when with fluoro. This, combined with a little spit for lube, helps the the stiffer fluoro cinch down tighter in most cases--especially true with loop knots.
 
Do yourself a favor and forget about fluorocarbon leaders. Use regular mono…, cheaper by a mile, easier to tie, more playable, makes stronger knots, does not sink. Makes no difference to fish.
I can't say whether or not Fluorocarbon makes a difference with really spooky fish in clear water like the keys or Caribbean, but I do know that I tie MUCH better knots in mono, I struggle to get knots Fluoro to seat well. I do pull test with a scale and on my normal leaders tied with Ande Mono I can pull to about 96-97% of rated break strength before failure, this is just using blood and improved blood knots, no bimini, that's about 14.4 pounds with 15 pound test. If you've ever seen Andy Mill's video of his practice of "lifting weights" with a fly rod, give it a try sometime. It's incredibly hard to apply 14 pounds of pressure with a fly rod.
 
I can't say whether or not Fluorocarbon makes a difference with really spooky fish in clear water like the keys or Caribbean, but I do know that I tie MUCH better knots in mono, I struggle to get knots Fluoro to seat well. I do pull test with a scale and on my normal leaders tied with Ande Mono I can pull to about 96-97% of rated break strength before failure, this is just using blood and improved blood knots, no bimini, that's about 14.4 pounds with 15 pound test. If you've ever seen Andy Mill's video of his practice of "lifting weights" with a fly rod, give it a try sometime. It's incredibly hard to apply 14 pounds of pressure with a fly rod.
Yeah, fluoro is stiffer, and behaves a little different than softer/stretchier mono. I mentioned earlier in this thread that I tend to use less wraps when tying with fluoro to ensure that the knot cinches down and coils tightly. I mainly use the non-slip loop and uni knot for my terminal connections. What knots are you using that you're having difficulty tying with fluoro?
 
I typically use the blue label in 25lb and 30lb. I tried on some 15lb last week and broke it when I tightened the knot. I plan on checking it's breaking point with a fish scale because it seemed weak.
 
Been using Seaguar Invizx fluorocarbon fishing line for making my freshwater fly line leaders and all around saltwater lure leaders on braid for over 20 years without any issue that I can attribute to the material.

However I do use the Blue “leader” material for making my tarpon leaders with RIO hard-mono for class tippet.
 
I like the blue for the heavy half of my leader and go with more supple stuff near the fly. FC Sniper is good, even better if you can get your hands on some seagaur grand max, the 19.5lb flouro is supple and about the diameter of 15lb.
 
While not as strong as what seaguar makes today I really liked their first grand max which came in a more bronze colored casing back in the 90's. Their was only one choice back then. Its true that only seaguar makes via their parent company Kureha the raw materials for the resin for flouro lines. I have been using today blue for tippet as well as Orvis mirage though will look at gold. I use hard line mono for back sections of leaders as for me it helps to turn over the leader. I used to use flouro in Maine for stripers and for rocky conditions for better abrasion resistance I still do and for sinking lines to keep the fly below my fly line. Always use it in SWF. Lots of interesting articles online for in depth look at flouro.
 
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