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I do not have any experience with this in a saltwater livewell. But shoot, $50 bucks for this one and there are others out there much cheaper. Mine is just regulator and tubing. I care for things that need O2 like yeast and baitfish. Lol. I too harvest fish and eat them and I really enjoy catching bait. I think your bait will stay alive just by plunking some a couple frozen bottles of water or something to lower the livewell temp. Just my 0.02.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/oxygenation-kit
I have tried this and the bubbles are not fine enough to add any benefit. The 10 dollar tanks from home depot do not have the pressure to power a good ceramic air stone like the one used in the keep alive system. I can consider myself a bait guru as i catch all my own live bait here in Ga. I go as far as keeping 2 bait holding tanks in the winter to have bait available 24/7. I can keep threadfin alive for months.
 
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I have tried this and the bubbles are not fine enough to add any benefit. The 10 dollar tanks from home depot do not have the pressure to power a good ceramic air stone like the one used in the keep alive system. I can consider myself a bait guru as i catch all my own live bait here in Ga. I go as far as keeping 2 bait holding tanks in the winter to have bait available 24/7. I can keep threadfin alive for months.
What’s up with the bubbles? How much experience (years, months) do you have using a pure oxygen rig with your bait? Keep threadfin alive for months in the winter and colder months is great, what do you feed them? How about June, July and Augustin the hot months, any problems then? How much does it cost to refill your little O2 tank and where do you buy O2? You may be the only one here with real experience.
 
What’s up with the bubbles? How much experience (years, months) do you have using a pure oxygen rig with your bait? Keep threadfin alive for months in the winter and colder months is great, what do you feed them? How about June, July and Augustin the hot months, any problems then? How much does it cost to refill your little O2 tank and where do you buy O2? You may be the only one here with real experience.
The finer the bubbles the longer they are suspended in the water so the water can absorb the oxygen. Large bubbles will rise to the tank surface and just agitate the water. I have been keeping bait for almost 10 years. Mostly threadfins. Gizzard are pretty easy just messy, bluebacks and alwives are the easiest of them all as for some reason they are calmer in captivity. I do not keep threadfin shad for more then a few days in the summer as they are real easy to net fresh when needed in the early morning using a hydro glow light. I do not feed them as they are plankton feeders here in the freshwater lakes. Takes about 6 -8 weeks to starve a treadfin. It cost 8 dollars to fill the small keep alive oxygen tank but that was last year, there is a tackle store named Hammonds at lake Lanier that refills them. I may try a new place this summer, it is a welding/medical oxygen service company. I have to say the system i keep my bait is a closed system. What i mean by this is I filter the water and recirculate it in the tank. I do not pump in clean water from outside. I have to do this as the fresh water has to be treated with salt to keep the bait from loosing scales and body salt from stress.
 
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The finer the bubbles the longer they are suspended in the water so the water can absorb the oxygen. Large bubbles will rise to the tank surface and just agitate the water. I have been keeping bait for almost 10 years. Mostly threadfins. Gizzard are pretty easy just messy, bluebacks and alwives are the easiest of them all as for some reason they are calmer in captivity. I do not keep threadfin shad for more then a few days in the summer as they are real easy to net fresh when needed in the early morning using a hydro glow light. I do not feed them as they are plankton feeders here in the freshwater lakes. Takes about 6 -8 weeks to starve a treadfin. It cost 8 dollars to fill the small keep alive oxygen tank but that was last year, there is a tackle store named Hammonds at lake Lanier that refills them. I may try a new place this summer, it is a welding/medical oxygen service company. I have to say the system i keep my bait is a closed system. What i mean by this is I filter the water and recirculate it in the tank. I do not pump in clean water from outside. I have to do this as the fresh water has to be treated with salt to keep the bait from loosing scales and body salt from stress.
Thanks for the info. Have you ever look at using Nano-oxygen bubbles? Nano bubbles make micro bubbles look like giants, you can’t see Nanos. They are considerable much more efficient than micro bubbles or macros. There is no oxygen waste, 100% dissolution. Nanos remain suspended in the water column for weeks until they are totally dissolved. There is no oxygen waste and none rise and pop at the surface. There are several ways Nano oxygen bubbles can be made.

Do you use a pediatric medical oxygen regulator or a commercial oxygen regulator? All medical oxygen regulators are dose calibrated in fractions of liters per minute, commercial oxygen regulators are nnever dose regulated in LPM or fractions of LPM.

What kind of salt do you use and how much salt per gallon do you mix to achieve a normal saline solution in your livewell?
 
Sorry do not know anything about nano bubbles. I just use the round ceramic keep alive KA970 diffuser and a KA903-02 regulator with their smallest tank. Good for about 200 hours of use. Bubbles are very small. I use about 15OZ of pool salt, no additive kind, about 17-19 gallons in tank. just under 1OZ of salt per gallon. Cannot remember the PPT of salt but it is much lower than salt water from the ocean.
 
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Sorry do not know anything about nano bubbles. I just use the round ceramic keep alive KA970 diffuser and a KA903-02 regulator with their smallest tank. Good for about 200 hours of use. Bubbles are very small. I use about 15OZ of pool salt, no additive kind, about 17-19 gallons in tank. just under 1OZ of salt per gallon. Cannot remember the PPT of salt but it is much lower than salt water from the ocean.
Thanks. Nanobubbles (ultrafine bubbles) – Nanobubbles are submicron gas-containing cavities in aquatious solution. http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/nanobubble.html 1 nanometer is 1 billionth of 1 meter.

OxyDoser™ PUREair - Nano Bubble Generator in high pressure mode - (888) HYDRO-57 - OxyDoser.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9L1pwl4rw
 
+1 for the keep alive. I use the KA970 diffuser with a 15L oxygen tank in my boat for keeping tournament fish alive without having to run any pumps to keep the dissolved oxygen levels up. Their website www.keepalive.net has great literature that should answer the majority of your questions. I spent $280 on my system, not $600. It kept the CCA redfish I helped release in St. Augustine alive and full of energy for release. The only issue you will run into it getting your tank transfilled. I am fortunate to know a firefighter who fills my tank, most welding supply stores won't transfill but trade out your tank. You won't want to do that after you spent $ on the Keep alive tank to get a beat up trade in.
 
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+1 for the keep alive. I use the KA970 diffuser with a 15L oxygen tank in my boat for keeping tournament fish alive without having to run any pumps to keep the dissolved oxygen levels up. Their website www.keepalive.net has great literature that should answer the majority of your questions. I spent $280 on my system, not $600. It kept the CCA redfish I helped release in St. Augustine alive and full of energy for release. The only issue you will run into it getting your tank transfilled. I am fortunate to know a firefighter who fills my tank, most welding supply stores won't transfill but trade out your tank. You won't want to do that after you spent $ on the Keep alive tank to get a beat up trade in.
Does your O2 regulator look shinny like a new chrome plated car bumper of dull, tarnished looking like an old 1945 buffalo nickel?

You may have paid way too much for this rig. Getting that O2 tank refilled is definitely inconvenient and a problem. Why didn’t you get their little trans-fill rig and eliminate your refilling problems http://www.oxygeninfuser.com/transfills.htm I’ll look into this one. For $100 more your refilling problems are eliminated, but the rig would have cost over $400 with shipping then.

I ran across this O2 rig last night: OE-D for $129.75. This O2 rig is $150 cheaper. I like cheap, convenient and easy. It comes with a 3” fine pore diffuser rock, O2 hose and a brass adjustable commercial O2 regulator. There is no problem getting refills, the O2 cylinders are cheap, disposable and available at many hardware and big box stores. These adjustable regulators are commercial brass regulators.

Thanks for the info.
 
Does your O2 regulator look shinny like a new chrome plated car bumper of dull, tarnished looking like an old 1945 buffalo nickel?

You may have paid way too much for this rig. Getting that O2 tank refilled is definitely inconvenient and a problem. Why didn’t you get their little trans-fill rig and eliminate your refilling problems http://www.oxygeninfuser.com/transfills.htm I’ll look into this one. For $100 more your refilling problems are eliminated, but the rig would have cost over $400 with shipping then.

I ran across this O2 rig last night: OE-D for $129.75. This O2 rig is $150 cheaper. I like cheap, convenient and easy. It comes with a 3” fine pore diffuser rock, O2 hose and a brass adjustable commercial O2 regulator. There is no problem getting refills, the O2 cylinders are cheap, disposable and available at many hardware and big box stores. These adjustable regulators are commercial brass regulators.

Thanks for the info.
I don't transfill because I do not need to as I have a way to get my tank filled at no cost to me. In order for me to transfill I would need an additional tank to fill from = more money. My regulator is shiny, I bought everything from one place to eliminate customer service problems and couldn't find out if other regulators would regulate the flow down to the 32nd of a liter.
 
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