Yamaha 25 running lean

Discussion in 'Outboard Maintenance' started by truckermt, May 16, 2011.

  1. truckermt

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    I have an 85 yamaha 25 single carb that is running lean on just the bottom cylinder. How does one cylinder run lean and one normal if there is only one carb.
     
  2. Brett

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    Dirty carb, sticking reed, or air leak will cause that.
    Small amouint of water entering the cylinder will do it too.
    Only things I can think of that would affect the fuel/air mix ratio.
     

  3. Frank_Sebastian

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    If the compression is okay and no bolts are missing or loose I would check the reeds. If there is no silencer on that engine and it is stored outdoors a rag stuffed in the carb will keep muddobbers and lizards out.

    Frank_S
     
  4. truckermt

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    Thanks guys I will look into those things you mentioned.
     
  5. truckermt

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    So should the fuel going into the carb have no air bubbles in it?
     
  6. Brett

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    Once a fuel line has been primed, there should be minimal bubbles going to the carb.
    Large bubbles means somethings not right in the fuel lines.
    The fuel system should be airtight, from the bottom of the pickup tube
    all the way to the tip of the float valve. Any leak between those 2 locations
    can cause engine problems or a fire hazard in your hull.
     
  7. truckermt

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    Wouldn't air or water in the fuel cause a lean situation in both cylinders or vary between the two? The lean cylinder is consistently the bottom.
     
  8. Brett

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    The way a 2 cylinder 2 stroke crankcase is engineered
    each cylinder is fed by it's own intake chamber, and the flow
    to each chamber is controlled by it's reed valves. If a reed is sticking
    it interferes with the amount of fuel/air mix entering the intake side of that cylinder.
    An air leak into that chamber will cause the same problem, possibly a reed block gasket split.
    If there is a coolant leak due to a failing gasket or a hairline crack in the block
    that small amount of water will vaporize in the intake chamber due to engine heat
    and change the amount of fuel/air entering the firing chamber.

    Take a look at the linked diagram, and remember you have 2 cylinders.
    One cylinder is working as expected, the other has a problem.


    http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/two-stroke6.htm
     
  9. truckermt

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    Thanks Brett that was very helpful I will check out the reeds!
     
  10. truckermt

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    So i took off the reed assembly today and took it to a shop to see if they could visually inspect it. The mechanic said by just looking at it nothing appeared abnormal. Heres some pictures I took of it if anybody can see something wrong. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  11. Brett

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    If a reed is broken or cracked, that's an easy to spot problem.
    But an air leak is rarely found by just looking at the reed block.
    A mechanic who can do that has way more skills than I do.
    Only way I know how to find an air leak is to pressure test.
    Rotate the flywheel until the piston intake port seals,
    introduce compressed air (4 to 8 psi) into the intake side with an adapter.
    Then listen for the hiss of escaping air or brush the intake
    from the reed block to the engine block with soapy water
    and look for bubbles. It's not going to be a big leak.
    Your engine is still running, just running lean.

    Plenty of how-to's on the web.