Wiring for Lights and Trolling Motor Plug ?

Discussion in 'Boat Yard Basics' started by trekker, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. trekker

    trekker Well-Known Member

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    Folks,

    I am getting ready to do some wiring for nav lights and a plug for the troller. I am a complete novice when it comes to this. I need direction !

    I dont even know where to start. Thinking of getting a Battery Tender plug, but am clueless how you attach it to the battery/trolling motor.

    Do I need to get a seperate battery for the ligjts. Any other items I am forgetting about?

    Thanks !
     
  2. timogleason

    timogleason I Love microskiff.com!

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    Google and YouTube are your friends. You will need a separate battery for a troller but not for your lights. You can do this but you will need to educate yourself some. None of it is rocket science. Got any friends who are boat handy? Maybe they can help/educate. Watch some YouTube vids. You will learn a lot.
     

  3. Smackdaddy53

    Smackdaddy53 Zephyr Cove is on FIRE!

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    Battery Tender plug has a male end that goes on the TM wires and a female end that mounts in your deck and goes on wire ends that run from the battery(ies). You will need an inline fuse rated for your TM no more than a foot from the battery positive and correct gauge MARINE TINNED WIRE, not regular copper wire.
    Wire your lights to the house battery fuse box with a dedicated fuse rated for your lights.
    Google is your friend, you can educate yourself and do it right with some research.
     
  4. trekker

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  5. Whiskey Angler

    Whiskey Angler I Love microskiff.com!

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    Also, wire your nav lights in parallel (as opposed to series). They will be much brighter that way.
     
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  6. Smackdaddy53

    Smackdaddy53 Zephyr Cove is on FIRE!

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    I never knew that.
     
  7. Whiskey Angler

    Whiskey Angler I Love microskiff.com!

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    I doubt it makes much of a difference on LED's, but if you have traditional bulbs, it will make them noticeably brighter.
    When they are wired in series, you get voltage drop at each bulb, effectively dropping the power (aka wattage) of the circuit.
    When wired in parallel, the voltage is constant at each bulb, but the circuit will draw more current (a negligible amount of amps).
     
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  8. Whiskey Angler

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    Trekker,

    I use 14 or 16 ga wire for boat lights...its bigger than necessary, but the bigger wire is more resistant to corrosion/breaking and is easier to crimp the weatherproof terminals to.

    Please let us know how far (in feet) the TM plug will be from the battery - from that we can determine wire size (probably 6ga or 8ga). For that size wire, you will need crimped lug terminals to correctly fasten the TM wire to the connections. I would recommend that you buy all the wire, lug terminals, and smaller weatherproof terminals at www.tinnedmarinewire.com

    I'm assuming you don't have a large crimper for the lugs, so you could have the TM wire cut and made to length with lugs attached through the website. Or, you could buy the stuff and take it to an auto repair place to have them crimp the lugs on.

    Tell us the following:
    Where is the main battery located? (bow, stern, center console?)
    Where will the TM battery be located (bow, stern, console?) I recommend the bow if possible.
    Where will you be mounting your nav lights? (on the side of the hull near the bow? or on either side of the center console?)
    What kind of boat/length?

    Tell me that stuff, and i'll help you order what you need for as cheap as possible.
    If you live around Houston, I can save you a buck and you can come by my house for free crimping and some spare wire.

    Thanks!!
     
  9. trekker

    trekker Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff. The plug will be 2' to 3 ' from the battery. I havent finished the deck layout yet so I dont know for sure yet. My plan is 1 battery for the lights and one for the troller.

    Lights will be on the sides of the bow.

    The boat is diy in my garage. 16'4 length. 48" at the widest point tapering to 34" at the stern.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  10. Whiskey Angler

    Whiskey Angler I Love microskiff.com!

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    This is all top quality stuff, and including a battery tender plug, blue seas breaker panel, and on/off main bus breaker, you are looking at ~$300 for the whole boat.

    Go ahead and install 3 rocker switches. even if you don't use them right away, you will later.

    Tinnedmarinewire.com Purchases


    AWG 14 Black – 50’ ($10)
    https://tinnedmarinewire.com/wire/i...s_id=9&zenid=10b728bb1121df287e1a7dadffb03a33


    AWG 14 Red – 50’ ($10)
    https://tinnedmarinewire.com/wire/i...s_id=9&zenid=10b728bb1121df287e1a7dadffb03a33


    AWG 14-16 Weather Proof Butt Connectors ($5-$10)-
    https://tinnedmarinewire.com/wire/i..._id=46&zenid=10b728bb1121df287e1a7dadffb03a33


    AWG 14-16 Weather Proof Female Quick Connects ($5-$10)-
    https://tinnedmarinewire.com/wire/i..._id=47&zenid=10b728bb1121df287e1a7dadffb03a33


    Trolling Motor Cables
    https://tinnedmarinewire.com/wire/i...=13_17&zenid=10b728bb1121df287e1a7dadffb03a33

    (Battery + to breaker) 6 AWG – Red – 1’ length – 3/8” Ring Lug and ¼” Ring lug ($6)

    (Breaker + to Battery Tender Plug) 6 AWG – Red – 3’ length – ¼” Ring Lug and ¼” ring lug ($8)

    (Battery - to battery tender plug) 6 AWG – Black – 4’ length – 3/8” Ring Lug and ¼” Ring lug ($10)


    AMAZON Purchases

    MinnKota MKR-19 Circuit Breaker 60A – Buy on Amazon Prime for ($35)

    Amarine LED Rocker Switches (I’d get 3) ($7/ea) - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ODWODO...R6TR74A0V5MPKHZ51&ie=UTF8&qid=1506524919&sr=1

    Rocker Switch Housing for 3 switches ($7)–
    https://www.amazon.com/MotoCity-Roc...6525069&sr=8-6&keywords=rocker+switch+housing

    Fuses? Me personnaly, I’d buy a Blue Seas 6 circuit fuse panel ($40)
    https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...06526244&sr=8-1&keywords=blue+seas+fuse+block

    I’d buy a 30 Amp On/off bus breaker to wire between your battery and fuse panel – you can use this to power off all the circuits while stowing the boat
    ($60)
    https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Circ...qid=1506526468&sr=1-1&keywords=blue+seas+7036
     
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  11. Whiskey Angler

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    Also, that price is with the trolling motor cable pre-made by tinnedmarinewire with the terminals factory crimped and heat shrinked.

    You would spend more money on a lug crimper than you would for the cables fully made.
     
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  12. trekker

    trekker Well-Known Member

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    Bro, thanks a ton. I will be going with all your suggestions.
     
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  13. trekker

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    Here's where it stands as of today. Gonna have the first layer of glass on the inside laid by Friday.
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  14. Whiskey Angler

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    Awesome! Keep us posted on progress, and if you need help laying out your wiring, send me a direct message when you get to electrical work.
     
  15. trekker

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    False floor is glassed on the bottom and tabbed in on one side. Should get the other side tabbed and start building the bulkheads and rod holders tommorow.


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