Both Chico and Flip were wonderful. This was a small group--limited to 15, so it was very conducive to Q&A and story telling. eightwt, that's hard to say. I am really a novice fly fisherman, so just about everything was meaningful to me, especially the casting instructions. For those of you who are more experienced, it was interesting to hear Chico talk about fly lines and see Flip construct the leader. He's really negative about the pre-made, loop-to-loop leaders, feeling that they interrupt the seamless transfer of energy. Instead, he wants
it to "bleed the energy" from the front taper of the fly line. He uses a snell knot to tie 50 # Cortland Mono leader as a butt section, then the tippet (25 # or 30 #) and then the bite tippet (depends on the target species, a short section of lighter mono or fluro). Flip says the more supple material enables one to use heavier leader for the butt section (hence 50# for an 8 wt fly line) and this allows for a longer leader--12' to 15'. Depending on the fly selected, he either uses a 5-7 turn clinch knot or a loop knot to tie the fly to the bite tippet. BTW, he's also big on the Cortland High Vis Fly line (he designed it).