Trolling motor issues

Discussion in 'Power it up with Electronics' started by logandorn96, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. logandorn96

    logandorn96 I Love microskiff.com!

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    Okay so i took my boat out today and the trolling motor was acting up,

    I have a brand new connector and a 50 amp breaker that was installed before i got it.

    It seems like the trolling motor heats up too quick even with the 50 amp breaker, i dont think the wires to small. I dont know if this does anything but the little wires that are in the wire are really thick


    The battery is a good 9 feet from the trolling motor, and the breaker is 6 inches from battery.

    any idea? help?
     
  2. firecat1981

    firecat1981 BBA Counselor

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    9ft is a long distance for TM leads, what guage size is the wire? It's usually written on the wires sheathing. You might be suprised to see how thick of wire you need to cover that distance. Also what kind of TM is it?
     

  3. logandorn96

    logandorn96 I Love microskiff.com!

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    wow i cant belive i forgot to put what kind of trolling motor it is, well its a 54lb thrust motorguide and it has 6 guage wire.
     
  4. Brett

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    Trolling motors draw about 1.2 amps per pound of rated thrust.
    So at maximum load a 54 lb thrust trolling motor draws (54 x 1.2 = 64.8) about 65 amps.
    So using the calculator at the bottom of the page in the link...

    http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

    it's easy to determine voltage drop with a set of 9 foot long cables.
    input:  copper wire
              gauge size of wire (6)
              voltage  (12VDC)
              length round trip (9x2=18)
              draw in amps (65)

    then hit the calculate button...results shown

    voltage drop 0.951 volts
    voltage loss 7.93%

    Maximum loss should be no more than 3%, you've got double that.
    you need a heavier gauge wire for that setup at maximum draw.
    According to the calculator, at maximum thrust, you'd need a 2 gauge wire
    for a 9 foot distance from battery to trolling motor
     
  5. logandorn96

    logandorn96 I Love microskiff.com!

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    will this cause it to over heat, cause the connector to the breaker burnt me when i touched it
     
  6. firecat1981

    firecat1981 BBA Counselor

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    yes, either that or a short somewhere.
     
  7. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    Current flow through wires results in voltage drop caused by resistance.
    That drop in voltage due to resistance ends up in being converted to heat.
    The greater the voltage loss the greater the amount of heat produced.
     
  8. logandorn96

    logandorn96 I Love microskiff.com!

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    SO i can get a thicker wire, or just shorten the distance between the TM and battery
     
  9. logandorn96

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    How close can the battery be to the gas tank?

    If you can imagine this,

    I would keep my battery under the front deck, but the deck had an extension put in, where the original deck ended it came down to the floor and has 2 football size holes before it goes to the extended deck that has a gas tank there.

    I mean there a good 2 foot apart and have a wall in between the tank and battery, but the wall has 2 football size holes.
     
  10. firecat1981

    firecat1981 BBA Counselor

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    Is the extesion open on the end? if so that should be enough ventilation and you should be ok. For protection put some rubber boots over the leads and terminals on the battery.

    But....I would really only relocate the battery if you think it will help you balance your load better. Other wise I would just run the 2ga wire like Brett said. Does your boat have one or 2 batteries?
     
  11. logandorn96

    logandorn96 I Love microskiff.com!

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    the extension can be either open or closed if that makes sense.

    it has 2 batteries. And i usually keep them under the console but if i move the battery i can put my tackle, dry box, first aid kit/tools box under it.

    and my boats back heavy so it might actually help
     
  12. firecat1981

    firecat1981 BBA Counselor

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    Well if it's dragging in the rear, moving a battery up front will help and allow you to just shorten your wiring. Just make sure the compartment with the gas tank is well vented!
     
  13. logandorn96

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    NICE! thanks for the help
     
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