Steering system selection

Discussion in 'Boat Yard Basics' started by oysterbreath, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    For a microskiff, is it better to have a 3 turn or 4 turn steering system (both being lock-to-lock)?
    I'm already on board with buying a no feedback system but this other 3 vs 4 turn issue has me beat.

    Teleflex Safe-T II NFB Steering System
    http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=3950&familyName=Teleflex+Safe-T+II+NFB+Steering+System

    or

    Teleflex No Feedback Rotary Package
    http://www.boatersland.com/tel-ss14710.html
     
  2. firecat1981

    firecat1981 BBA Counselor

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    I'm not really sure, but I would think the 3 turn is for smaller motors, and the 4 turn, being it has more gear reduction, is for larger ones. So all things being equal I'd go with 3 on a small boat.
     

  3. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    3 turn
    Im also not a fan of the no feedback. The locks in the helm that give it the "no feedback" make it feel notch or ratchety as your turning the wheel.
    I still perfer the old simple cheap feedback system.
    When you turn your anode fin on the lower unit the correct way you shouldnt have to fight the steering whatsoever.
    I have it on my skiff with the 70hp and I can let go of the wheel completely at speed and it just stays there.
     
  4. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    Uggg! I should have just gone with a tiller!
    No feedback is manditory these days ain't it?
     
  5. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    Not at all.
    Its just more expensive for a worse imo system.
    Imo its more for 150hp and up (no feed back), but at that point im going hydraulic...
    Trust me, you wont have any problems with a feedback system on your 40
     
  6. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    What are the regulations on no feed back. I was under the inpression that all new steering systems have to be no feed back. Now that you brought it up I did get to pilot one boat that was NFB and it did feel "rachitty". I didn't like it. I thought something was wrong. I want that smooth steering. Ain't gotta be butter smooth but atleast click free.
     
  7. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    As far as I know there are no laws against it otherwise you wouldnt be able to buy it at your local west marine.
    If there is I honestly wouldnt abide if it was my own personal boat anyways.
    Maybe Brett can google somethin up.
    But I havent even heard of any kind of law about it
     
  8. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    Don't need google for this one... ;D

    No feed back steering is a result of the boys with the need for speed.
    The ones who hang 150 hp up on the back of a hull.
    After you reach a certain amount of horsepower, those steering tabs become ineffective
    due to the size and pitch of the props being turned. The no-feedback system was produced
    so you didn't strain yourself maintaining control of the wheel when running those big engines.
    Under 90 hp I never felt the need to use anything but the basic Safe-T-Helm.
     
  9. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I'm going to look it up. I found something else though.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tYV0eNvg

    After watching this and actually seeing the gears of the systems...I think I might end up with a UFlex helm instead.
     
  10. DuckNut

    DuckNut Brandon, FL

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    What is wrong with the pulley and cable system of the 30's?

    I just installed a Uflex and so far it is good.
     
  11. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    Which one? I assume that yours doesn't have "no feed back?" How do you like it?
     
  12. DuckNut

    DuckNut Brandon, FL

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    T71. Came in a box with cables, helm, steering wheel and all hardware. Eazy peazy.
     
  13. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    That ones got a good price point:
    http://www.boatersland.com/uflex-rotech.html

    Thanks Ducknut, Brett, and gang!
     
  14. Creek Runner

    Creek Runner Well-Known Member

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    I usually agree with cut, but I have no problem with the NFB steering systems. The good ones at least, go with the Teleflex safe T II system.

    Just my .002
     
  15. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    Im familiar with the system, and while there is nothing wrong with it I just dont like the clicking inside the helm.
    Just a personal preference I suppose, well lol hydraulic is my real personal preference.
     
  16. cwalden

    cwalden I Love my Ghee-not!

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    This is what I use... haha
    Recently blew the motor on this boat. Sop, I recon that I will have to replace the steering to install newer motor...
     
  17. DuckNut

    DuckNut Brandon, FL

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    On some of the classic woodies you will see new engines rigged with the pulley systems.

    Don't give into technology!!!
     
  18. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    Oh, update I bought a Uflex system. It's one of those rotary systems. Seems nice. I also picked up a SS steering wheel.
     
  19. Gramps

    Gramps Living &amp; Dying in 3/4 Time

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    Where did you get the wheel D? I may have a few extra control cables at the house if you need them, will know for sure where they are Saturday.