Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by snooknreds2, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. snooknreds2

    snooknreds2 Well-Known Member

    I am not politically savvy for a number of reasons. I guess if I were to truly look at myself I would say that I am politically lazy, just like the rest of America. I grew up believing that it is important to not believe what is told to you unless it can be proven. Furthermore I strongly believe that history repeats itself and history shows that power and money bread corruption. Now I did not grow up this way due to the beliefs of my parents. My mother and I till this very day argue when ever my beliefs and thoughts are brought up. I have though, for as long as I can remember, always thought that America was a bunch of sheep being led on a long journey that leads to a cliff to walk off. We are brain washed from the first days of our youth. Did you know that most history books do not actually tell the truth of what really happened in history? They are skewed to show the US as a country who is always in the right, when that is not always the case. I challenge each and every one of you to look up and read a book titled "Lies my teacher told me".

    I have thought now for many years that my political negligence was my choice. I saw many times where the election outcome did not match the majority thinking. I remember being taught in school that there are two different votes when it comes to elections. The one that the populace voted in did not really matter as the electoral vote over ruled it or something like that. I have always agreed that the laws in place are necessary but should be questioned. I have always thought it was not a true democracy if the laws that are passed can be done doing so with out even letting the America populace know they are being created. Also there are laws out there that I would think if America voted on they would not exist. At no point in time was there a vote for the American public to decide that we should not be able to turn right on red at a traffic light for instance. It is a stupid example but think about it....Our country is SO FREE that we can not make a right hand turn on red?? And if we do and get caught we owe the city some arbitrary amount of money. In this video it discuss that over 30% of every dollar is going straight into the pockets of a few select elite members of society. That means that 4 months of the year you are working to pay some one else.
    My wife is from Poland and moved here when she was 22. Prior to moving she had visited several other countries. Consistently, several times a week she makes a comment about how America is the least free country she has ever been in. Poland, who used to be non democratic, she said is more free now than we are, and we have been free for almost 230 years!!!! We are no longer free!! We are mindless drones that do what we are told to do. We are trained to not think for our self’s. When I was a kid I believed that life would be better living a long time ago. All you had to do is survive and provide your self and family with food water and shelter. How many Americans work their butts off just to make ends meat while some big rich corporation guy makes millions off of their hard work? I honestly do not know the answer...

    So why do I bring all of this up you might ask... Well I am taking my moms advice, finally, and doing something about it. I can on longer sit back and watch America destroy it self. I have to admit that I do not think a single person can make a difference and only with gods help can a difference be made. I have talked with my mother about her and my beliefs and she always seams to say the same bible verse that you should obey those in authority and trust they have gods influence. Well it is blatantly obvious that they do not have God’s guidance. I am not asking for much from you. Please just watch these series of videos that some one else more knowledgeable than I has made. When watching them PLEASE do so open minded. Keep in mind that the media controls everything you see in the main stream and that although you may think, oh I never knew that, or that couldn’t be true. Just watch the entire series and then feel free to respond to me and let me know what you think.

    Spread this message to every one you know. I truly feel that there are more and more people every day that are begging to see that we are no longer in control of what happens to us and we need to find that control again. Our government no longer has our best interest in mind. All they care about is them and the other big money partners that they are in bed with. Make no mistake that government and cooperation’s bribe each other and do illegal activates every day of their existence. I don’t know what else to say, again I am not politically savvy. I just know that this feeling that I have had my whole life is getting worse by the day. I have always felt like something needs to change but for the first time in my life I truly feel like something might just change. I feel like more and more people are seeing what is going on and has been going on for years now.

    PLEASE JUST WATCH THE VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Here is a comment that some one wrote I found interesting.

    "On average, all governments have been overthrown every 400 years.
    The rulers start out slow then gain too much.
    The people become enslaved then fight back. The rulers ease up a bit and it starts over again. Something in human nature has a desire to destroy. Those who have the higher desires for this will always rule those who are passive. We will always have wars until the passive eliminate those who war. Catch 22"

    This video concerns the North American Union that is being put in place with out or knowledge. Eventually this would put the constitution in a null and void state, as we would then be governed by the North American Union which consist of us, Canada, and Mexico.

    This is part 1 of 5 of the video

    This is part 2 of 5 of the video

    This is part 3 of 5 of the video

    This is part 4 of 5 of the video. In this video 11 months before the 9-11 incident a member of the Rockefeller family is cited saying:

    "Nicholas Rockefeller, October 2000 There is going to be an event and out of that event were going to go into Afghanistan, so we can run the pipelines from the Caspian Sea, were going to go into Iraq to take the oil and establish a base in the Middle East...Your gonna see people looking into caves for people they’re never gonna find...The ultimate goal is to have everyone implanted with a chip. If anyone wants to protest what we do, or violate what we want, we just turn off their chip."

    This is part 5 of 5 of the video

    This is video concerning the microchip and how realistic is. Also the fact that they are already laying the ground work to implement it.

    This is a video of George bushing talking about a secure form of identification. The title of the video says it was announced on 6-6 but I can not confirm if this is true.
  2. captnron

    captnron Guest

    I'm not going to watch the vids because I don't need to raise my blood pressure but realize your talking to someone that actually hopes the government will fail resulting in total anarchy in the hopes we can establish a new, democratic, government.

  3. snooknreds2

    snooknreds2 Well-Known Member

    I would sugest watching these videos then. It explains very well how this has all been an on going plan since before WW 1 :eek:
  4. snooknreds2

    snooknreds2 Well-Known Member

    I think I will start a new organization called something like

    "Americans ready for true change from within"

    and we all can finally not just say but show that we have had enough.
  5. captnron

    captnron Guest

    No good reason to watch. None of my friends here are the problem and there are more sheep than original thinkers.

    Preach'n to the choir here. Spread the word where you can make difference.

    Leave it to this country to "elect" socialism.

    Can you say "mooooooooooooooooooo"?
  6. tom_in_orl

    tom_in_orl Founder of Microskiff, Member of the Gheenoe Army

    Complete garbage. A manipulation of events and outright lies from the paranoid. Why would you pollute a fishing forum with this  [smiley=bs.gif]. If you believe it then go  [smiley=suicide.gif] before its too late.
  7. captnron

    captnron Guest

    [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif]

    I take it you took the time to watch the vids? ;D ;D ;D

    I hope you did it at work so it wasn't a complete waste of time. ;D ;D ;D ;D

    He already admitted he has been apathetic for years.

    Sorry Tom but that's funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

    We need to get together for a cold one. [smiley=1-beer.gif]
  8. galleta_loco

    galleta_loco Well-Known Member

    Quick ,start folding [smiley=watching-you.gif][​IMG]
  9. HaMm3r

    HaMm3r Well-Known Member

    [smiley=1-whoops1.gif] [smiley=1-lmao.gif] [smiley=bravo.gif] Perfect response Tom! ;D Just the pick-me-upper I needed after sitting thru the debate tonight. [smiley=frustrate2.gif]
  10. MATT

    MATT Well-Known Member

    Tom, I know you are the shy type, tell us what you realy think...
  11. Flyline

    Flyline Won "Do More With Less" Award!

    To Paranoids or get off your crack ;D,

    Everyone needs to stop taking it too seriously over this B.S and go see some REAL faces and go fishing!!!! instead of brainwashed from TV or youtube! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) [smiley=1-crazy-eyes.gif] [smiley=1-smack-myself.gif] [smiley=ignore.gif] [smiley=ignore.gif] [smiley=ignore.gif] [smiley=lalalala.gif] [smiley=lalalala.gif] [smiley=lalalala.gif] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

    I gotta get me a bheer out of my gheynoe! ;)
  12. iMacattack

    iMacattack busy, too busy

    I have a new desktop background!
  13. galleta_loco

    galleta_loco Well-Known Member

    This thread needs some more COWBELL BABY!!!![​IMG]
  14. Un-shore

    Un-shore Well-Known Member

    Dang, I thought you needed to borrow a trailer or something.

    I'm with CR on this one.
  15. costefishnt

    costefishnt Cost Efish'nt³

    dosnt matter. I have declared myself a soveriegn nation, I am starting a militia. bring your beer, bring your guns and we will whoop the sheep, and politically correct french pinkos after which we will return the great land of the USA back to the people. The people.
  16. Un-shore

    Un-shore Well-Known Member

    Sounds tempting.... [smiley=1-mmm.gif]
  17. tom_in_orl

    tom_in_orl Founder of Microskiff, Member of the Gheenoe Army

    And the militia's name?

    [​IMG]    [smiley=military-salute.gif]
  18. deerfly

    deerfly Opinicus iracibilus

    count me in, few things I hate less than a spineless sob.  :mad:

    Live by principle and with conviction or don't live at all...
  19. Un-shore

    Un-shore Well-Known Member

    We will take up rods and defeat our gilled adviseries and devour their flesh!