outboard on long runs..

Discussion in 'Outboard Maintenance' started by ChrisDoza, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. ChrisDoza

    ChrisDoza I Love microskiff.com!

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    i dont necessarily have a problem with my outboard, but a question on long runs. i have been boating for 7-8 years now and have never had to make any truly long runs. usually just a few miles at a time, maybe 5 miles at the very longest. the outboard i run is a 2004 30hp johnson enforcer 2 stroke (black military version) and she runs like a top, only has just over 110 hours on it, and my question is how long a run would you guys be comfortable taking in a motor this size? i ask because my bro in law and i plan to take yearly trips to the everglades and would like to fish from everglades city to lostmens/rogers area. now i dont think i would plan on making a straight run to there as this would be a 3-4 day adventure but would longer runs like 15-20 miles be a problem? of course id run under WOT for lengthy runs.
     
  2. Creek Runner

    Creek Runner Well-Known Member

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    I run my Outboards @ WOT for as long as it takes me to get where I'm going or have to slow down for what ever reason.

    I'll run my 25hp 2 stroke Merc for 45min WOT, my Shearwater I have ran for about an hour @ WOT, When we fire up the trip 300hp on the Contender we have made 180 mile runs straight at 5300-5400rpm's.

    And the only reason the times aren't longer is because its time to FISH! I'm going where the fish are and I plan on getting there in a hurry! :cool:
     

  3. I got the same outboard, but mine is white and I run it at wot a lot usually 12-14 miles at wot and it never missed a beat! Great motors I have put 110 hours on mine in 4 months and just did a compression check and it's a 125 psi on both.
     
  4. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    As long as its up to date on being serviced and the thermostat is checked, new plugs,gear oil, water pump etc it wouldn't phase me. Now if it was a neglected motor, no
     
  5. lemaymiami

    lemaymiami Well-Known Member

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    Outboard motors like to be run (and run and run).... The way that most use their motors, short runs and long periods where they just sit is one of the reasons for many of the usual problems folks face. Show me a three or four year old motor with extremely low hours - and that's a motor I'd expect problems from.

    Yesterday out of Flamingo I logged 80 miles on my gps trip log. My usual daily run there is something between 65 and 70 miles. Of course I'm not running small motors like you find on most micros... I'm using an E-Tec 90 and loving it...

    Seriously the longer your runs are and the more you run any motor, the better it is for it. Make sure your maintenance is up to par, that you have oil and fuel then use that motor... If you have a trip log on your gps (almost every unit has one - many don't know how to use one...) re-set it to zero then learn to have an accurate read on the ground you've covered. Yes, you can run your motor wide open -but running it at 75% of your throttle range will give you your best fuel economy....
     
  6. ChrisDoza

    ChrisDoza I Love microskiff.com!

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    Ok that's what I've been wanting to hear, thanks guys. The motor i have was bought 3 years ago and only had 40 some odd hours on it. She gets ran a lot at least once every two weeks and when I don't take the boat out, I run her in the driveway as well as perform all required and sometimes not so required maintenance one her. It's just most of the areas I fish in the marsh aren't really that far from the launches, maybe 10 min at most so I don't really have experience running long in a smaller motor. I've done it plenty of times on a larger 90 hp but just wanted to get confirmation from you guys to help ease any worries. Thanks again, you guys are a great bunch. -Chris
     
  7. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    Just out of curiosity is there any way you can post a picture of the motor?
    Those military motors are really cool and always spark my interest
     
  8. ChrisDoza

    ChrisDoza I Love microskiff.com!

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    ChrisDoza I Love microskiff.com!

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    sorry for the crappy sideways phone pics. just barely learned how to post pics up :-[
     
  10. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    That's cool.
    Did you see the new etec the military is using?
    It can run off gas, diesel, kerosene with the flip of a switch.
    Also it is made to start first pull, every time, no matter what
    Wouldn't mind getting my hand on one of them
     
  11. ChrisDoza

    ChrisDoza I Love microskiff.com!

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    No I didn't hear about those. They sound pretty sweet. Luckily this one never needs more than 2 pulls to start, but usually first pull every time. The last I heard about a motor change was that when they went from these '04's to the '05, they sold all the '04's at auction (how the guy I bought my motor from obtained it), and the military went to jet drive motors for the tiller models. I think there may have been a few propped 05's but they would be extremely rare.
     
  12. flyfshrmn82

    flyfshrmn82 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe add a little extra oil to the gas. 40:1 for extended WOT and run it like you stole it.... :cool:
     
  13. noeettica

    noeettica Well-Known Member

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    Yupp that's how I roll when running the rivers in South America ... NO RULES ! an MP5 slung over my shoulder and a smile on my face ... LOL


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEfoAOiMucM


     
  14. jimsmicro

    jimsmicro I Love microskiff.com!

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    I have the same motor although it's not an "enforcer" model.  My longest run to date has been 45 miles.  Whether you run 5 miles or 50 you ain't gonna be paddling home.  This motor is the most reliable one I have owned to date, and prior to my ownership it was used commercially and heavily abused from the look of it.  They are great motors.
     
  15. CurtisWright

    CurtisWright Light, Strong, Cheap. Pick Two.

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    I just did a trip from chokoloskee to Flamingo and back with my 2013 Tohatsu 40 tiller.   I diddnt think twice about it.

    If I was you I would just pack tools to disassemble the carb, remove your prop, spark plug wrench, some carb cleaner, a spare prop, spark plugs, a fuel line splice kit, a primer bulb and then go!  As long as you dont run out of oil or gas, the most common problems are usually spun prop hub,  Ethanol in carbs, fouled plugs, fish hook in fuel line, or dry rot/ crack primer bulb / fuel line.   I am always prepared to fix thoes!

    I have a dry box about the size of a lunch pail in my boat I call the O-Shit Kit. IMHO every boat should have one. It even includes first aid stuff.
     
  16. bw510

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    I'm making this for our trip in a couple weeks.i Never thought about primer bulb and I've had these fail thanks