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Gamma Beta 7wt got it done yesterday in Biscayne on the paddleboard. It's a beautiful casting rod with plenty of backbone! The grand slam line is highly recommended on this rod, it brought it to life.

Also, as far as the bent tip situation. I have a 1 piece PSI 8wt here that I haven't built yet.. the last two or 3 inches is pretty wonky. I've been trying to contact NFC about it but no dice so far. I messaged the head honcho guy Aleks on Facebook about it, hoping they can just send another one out.

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For anyone that's built a GB 10wt, what size winding check did you use? Can't find the blank diameter anywhere
 
I also happen to have a 4pc Sector #8 here and the LMX is no match for the Sector. The Sector is a little stiffer with about the same action but tip recovery, tracking, and stability at distance are all much, much better with the Sector and the Sector is noticeably lighter while casting. It's not really a fair comparison because I have less than $200 in the LMX with a full REC CeRecoil/Recoil guide train and a new Sector is about $1000 but I figured I'd mention it.

... I'm building 8,9, & 10 NFC 1pc rods right now and will post my thoughts on the #8 in comparison with the LMX and my other #8's once I get it finished. I've cast the #9 with guides taped on and I'm very excited to cast the finished versions.

I’m really looking forward to your opinion on these 1 pc blanks, especially compared to factory rods (any brand, in any piece numbers) that are widely available, as a relatable point of reference
 
Just finished one of the #8 1pc blanks today, plan to cast it alongside my Loomis #8's and the Sector 908/4 this weekend.

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Very curious to hear your thoughts. Just getting into rod building and a 1pc is definitely on my radar.
 
I spent a couple of hours casting the NFC 890-1 this weekend with various lines and back to back with my G Loomis GLX 1088-2, G Loomis CrossCurrent Pro1 1068-1, and a Scott Sector 908/4. I'll start by saying that I am not the world's best caster but I've been doing it for a while and I've thrown nearly all of the mainstream saltwater rods at one time or another. I pretty much only sight fish and I throw floating and intermediate lines about 95% of the time so what I value in a rod may not apply for everyone.

I started out with several different lines: Cortland Guide WF7F, Cortland Tarpon WF8F, Cortland Bonefish WF8F, and Cortland Guide WF8F. The Tarpon and Bonefish lines are AFFTA standard weights and the Guide lines are 1/2 weight heavy. The 890-1 cast all of the lines well but it felt best with the Tarpon WF8F. It seems to have a very wide sweet spot like the CrossCurrent Pro1. It does not need an overweight line to perform up close.

I cast each of the four rods with the Tarpon WF8F on a Tibor Everglades, a 12' fluoro leader, and a #2 crab fly. Wind was a steady 10mph with occasional gusts; pretty typical South Florida fishing conditions. The first thing I noticed is just how light the 890-1 feels despite the large blank diameter. It's lighter both in-hand and while casting than either the GLX or the CC Pro1. The best way I can describe the 890-1 is that it feels crisp. It's significantly faster and stiffer than the GLX and a little stiffer than the CC Pro1 though both blanks load similarly. It's much easier to cast than the GLX past about 60' and it feels more accurate than the CC Pro1 at distance. From 20-60' the 890-1 doesn't quite have the feel of either of the other two Loomis rods but it's more accurate in my hands, even at 20'. From 60-80' the 890-1 is superb. It's very easy to generate a lot of line speed and the tip tracks very straight and recovers very quickly despite being comfortable casting in close. From 80' out the 890-1 is better than either of the Loomis rods but not as composed as something like a Method. What really stood out to me was how much line I could pick up off of the water and how quickly I could transition from fly-in-hand to an accurate 60-80' cast. I'm not educated enough on rod design to try to identify why the 890-1 is better than my other #8's in this regard, but it's noticeable on the water.

I'm hesitant to compare the 890-1 with the Sector because it feel's a little sensationalist, but I'll just say that in my hands they perform similarly and I'd be happy to have either on my skiff. I'm sure that a better caster could tease more performance from the Sector but for me they're both very accurate from 20-80', able to pick up a long line, quick to transition from in-close to distance, and comfortable to cast for long periods.

Based on my memory of the G Loomis NRX Pro1 1068-1 that I owned the 890-1 is not as stiff with a softer tip. I'd be interested in casting the NFC and the NRX Pro1 alongside each other and will see if I can find one to borrow.

I am extremely pleased with finished product. The CeRecoils are smooth and quiet; noticeably quieter than the standard Recoils on the CC Pro1 and noticeably slicker than the titanium frame SIC (I think) strippers on the GLX. Durability is obviously up in the air but the 890-1 is an excellent caster. I'm really looking forward to finishing the #10 and testing it against the CrossCurrent Pro1 #10 which I think is the best in it's class for oceanside Tarpon.

For those of you curious about cost I listed the price including shipping and tax for the components below. Even with the cost of thread and finish and other assorted odds and ends I doubt I have $275 in the rod. I purchased the 1pc blanks during one of NFC's many sales but I wouldn't hesitate to build another one at the regular retail price.

890-1 Blank: $135
PacBay Seat: $20
Cork & Winding Check: $25
REC CeRecoil Stripping Guides: $35
REC Recoil Snake Guides & Tip Top: $45

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Great report! Thanks.
 
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I ordered a 6 wt. GB on Nov. 19, projected ETA from North Fork 3-5 weeks. This is week 5, we'll see.
 
Don’t hold your breath, especially with this being the holidays.

I don't need it right now, anyway. Probably won't be using the 6 wt until l go to Flamingo in Feb. and I'm just upgrading from a BVK on one.
 
I've previously ordered at high volume times and have received my orders pretty quickly. I've had to warranty things also, and that takes a little bit of followup - but once the warranty ticket is in, it moves quick.
Same here, I’ve been ordering blanks from NFC for 7-8 years and have about 60 blanks on hand right now. They are getting better but at one point their customer service was pathetic. The blanks are worth it in my opinion.
 
Same here, I’ve been ordering blanks from NFC for 7-8 years and have about 60 blanks on hand right now. They are getting better but at one point their customer service was pathetic. The blanks are worth it in my opinion.
So are the rods.
 
Just saw this, Have been out of the loop for a while because of a shoulder accident (rotator cuff) and am getting back to normal very slowly but have also been working a lot. I have been buying Gary Loomis blanks since the 90s and now since inception NFC. To me the quality and the design of the blanks are superb and good as anything else out there. I will say that even the cheaper (most of the time) Chinese, Korean, outsourced blanks are mostly better than anything that was made 30 years ago. I have built mostly on only the most high end NFC blanks and I can tell you from experience the HM blanks are a lot stronger and lighter than they used to be. I have built many, especially 8 wts on the same blank and you can totally change the way the rod performs by guide placement, number of guides and stripper guide sizes. All of these variables will determine what line works best for that rod to get all around performance out of it. I would say this applies to any finished fly rod. Hopefully you have enough line types to see what works best. Cork to me is the best and lightest grip type, but unfortunately flor grade cork is getting harder and harder to find.
 
This is a very good thread with lots of useful information. I have built 2 rods on CTS Affinity X blanks; a 6wt and an 8wt. Both are excellent but the 8 is noticeably the better rod. Much like the best factory rod lineups within a series there are a few standouts. Does anyone have enough experience with NFC blanks especially the Gamma Beta series that are standouts and recommended or as importantly which ones to avoid?
 
I spent a couple of hours casting the NFC 890-1 this weekend with various lines and back to back with my G Loomis GLX 1088-2, G Loomis CrossCurrent Pro1 1068-1, and a Scott Sector 908/4. I'll start by saying that I am not the world's best caster but I've been doing it for a while and I've thrown nearly all of the mainstream saltwater rods at one time or another. I pretty much only sight fish and I throw floating and intermediate lines about 95% of the time so what I value in a rod may not apply for everyone.

I started out with several different lines: Cortland Guide WF7F, Cortland Tarpon WF8F, Cortland Bonefish WF8F, and Cortland Guide WF8F. The Tarpon and Bonefish lines are AFFTA standard weights and the Guide lines are 1/2 weight heavy. The 890-1 cast all of the lines well but it felt best with the Tarpon WF8F. It seems to have a very wide sweet spot like the CrossCurrent Pro1. It does not need an overweight line to perform up close.

I cast each of the four rods with the Tarpon WF8F on a Tibor Everglades, a 12' fluoro leader, and a #2 crab fly. Wind was a steady 10mph with occasional gusts; pretty typical South Florida fishing conditions. The first thing I noticed is just how light the 890-1 feels despite the large blank diameter. It's lighter both in-hand and while casting than either the GLX or the CC Pro1. The best way I can describe the 890-1 is that it feels crisp. It's significantly faster and stiffer than the GLX and a little stiffer than the CC Pro1 though both blanks load similarly. It's much easier to cast than the GLX past about 60' and it feels more accurate than the CC Pro1 at distance. From 20-60' the 890-1 doesn't quite have the feel of either of the other two Loomis rods but it's more accurate in my hands, even at 20'. From 60-80' the 890-1 is superb. It's very easy to generate a lot of line speed and the tip tracks very straight and recovers very quickly despite being comfortable casting in close. From 80' out the 890-1 is better than either of the Loomis rods but not as composed as something like a Method. What really stood out to me was how much line I could pick up off of the water and how quickly I could transition from fly-in-hand to an accurate 60-80' cast. I'm not educated enough on rod design to try to identify why the 890-1 is better than my other #8's in this regard, but it's noticeable on the water.

I'm hesitant to compare the 890-1 with the Sector because it feel's a little sensationalist, but I'll just say that in my hands they perform similarly and I'd be happy to have either on my skiff. I'm sure that a better caster could tease more performance from the Sector but for me they're both very accurate from 20-80', able to pick up a long line, quick to transition from in-close to distance, and comfortable to cast for long periods.

Based on my memory of the G Loomis NRX Pro1 1068-1 that I owned the 890-1 is not as stiff with a softer tip. I'd be interested in casting the NFC and the NRX Pro1 alongside each other and will see if I can find one to borrow.

I am extremely pleased with finished product. The CeRecoils are smooth and quiet; noticeably quieter than the standard Recoils on the CC Pro1 and noticeably slicker than the titanium frame SIC (I think) strippers on the GLX. Durability is obviously up in the air but the 890-1 is an excellent caster. I'm really looking forward to finishing the #10 and testing it against the CrossCurrent Pro1 #10 which I think is the best in it's class for oceanside Tarpon.

For those of you curious about cost I listed the price including shipping and tax for the components below. Even with the cost of thread and finish and other assorted odds and ends I doubt I have $275 in the rod. I purchased the 1pc blanks during one of NFC's many sales but I wouldn't hesitate to build another one at the regular retail price.

890-1 Blank: $135
PacBay Seat: $20
Cork & Winding Check: $25
REC CeRecoil Stripping Guides: $35
REC Recoil Snake Guides & Tip Top: $45
Tailer, any info on where you got your guide spacing? I'm about to embark on the psi 8wt build in tomorrow.
 
Just saw this, Have been out of the loop for a while because of a shoulder accident (rotator cuff) and am getting back to normal very slowly but have also been working a lot. I have been buying Gary Loomis blanks since the 90s and now since inception NFC. To me the quality and the design of the blanks are superb and good as anything else out there. I will say that even the cheaper (most of the time) Chinese, Korean, outsourced blanks are mostly better than anything that was made 30 years ago. I have built mostly on only the most high end NFC blanks and I can tell you from experience the HM blanks are a lot stronger and lighter than they used to be. I have built many, especially 8 wts on the same blank and you can totally change the way the rod performs by guide placement, number of guides and stripper guide sizes. All of these variables will determine what line works best for that rod to get all around performance out of it. I would say this applies to any finished fly rod. Hopefully you have enough line types to see what works best. Cork to me is the best and lightest grip type, but unfortunately flor grade cork is getting harder and harder to find.
I'd love to hear more on the changes you've made on guide placement and sizing and the different performance characteristics they've brought!
 
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