New under gunnel rod holders

Discussion in 'Boat Yard Basics' started by TheBrazilNut, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. TheBrazilNut

    TheBrazilNut Guest

    Going to be building some now ones as the ones I have now are starboard and just screwed into the top of the gunnel. That works fine except that rod are spaced for storing "boat rods", but my reels lay on the deck.

    Looking to remove the carpet and make the rod holders out of Nidacore glassed over with mat and then glassed to the hull.

    Pros/Cons to this to using this material?


    Here are the factory installed rod holders:


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  2. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    using nidacore is going to be a lot more work than just re-fabing new ones from starboard. PLUS, if you act fast Jamestown distributors has a sell on starboard AND if you order from a mobile device, shipping is free on most items.

    Whatever you do, take plenty of pictures.
     

  3. TheBrazilNut

    TheBrazilNut Guest


    The problem is that using starboard I can only secure them with screws into the gunnels and not on the side of the hull. Also I will be replacing the carpet with seadek and the inner part where the rod is cradled so they don't slip. None of this will stick to starboard and the rods will slide a lot as they do now.
     
  4. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    Teak and thickened epoxy adhesive
     
  5. DuckNut

    DuckNut Brandon, FL

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    The easy way is to use starboard.

    If you use West System G-Flex 655 and use it the way the directions for HDPE and you will have to rip the gunnel out if you want them removed. Over 2,000 psi tensile adhesion. You will not knock them off by accident.
     
  6. oysterbreath

    oysterbreath Well-Known Member

    I see, you want to just glass the holders in and be done with it. Issue I have with Nidacore in that situation is that you have a lot of "Endgrain" exposed that will need to be filled and it's a lot of work to do that. OK, I KNOW it's not called end grain but you get the point! Anyway, if you are going to completely glass and paint over them, just use some freaking douglas fir or laminate a couple layers of Fir ply together to get your desired thickness. That-is, if you plan to glass it all in anyway. If you are insisting on using no wood, try that Corecell. OR...ask Mel for some left over "transom material"...He'll know what you are talking about. I just think NidaCore is gonna look sloppy.
     
  7. el9surf

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    I will post some pictures of the ones mel made on mine. He used the transom material and glassed it in place.
     
  8. cutrunner

    cutrunner Cert. Yamaha technician

    Transom material = pvc board
     
  9. TheBrazilNut

    TheBrazilNut Guest

    ^Right. That would be fine, but it has to be BLACK and what 1/2" or 3/4"? PVC board is nice that it can be glued together and then to the hull. Seadek, my guess would also stick to it.

    el9surf,

    Pictures of the ones you have would be great.

    My infamous grab bar box is made of PVC. Very thin maybe 1/8", but very strong. I sent an email to Piedmount Plastics in Daytona about 6 months ago as it's now being used in all kinds of marine applications.

    When I talk to Mel about picking up the gel coat I need buy a sheet of PVC board from him as well. All kinds of cool things to make from this stuff. :D
     
  10. blittle

    blittle I Love microskiff.com!

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    Ask mel to get you some lighter core.  No need to go with the transom density.  Bond enough together to make 1.5"-2" thick rod holders then glass them on each side. 

    Then fillet glass them into place. 

    I did this on my skiff and it stiffens up the walk around gunnels too. 

    4lb to 6lb will work.  no need to go to the 18-32lb foam.

    The good thing about most transom core is it might have reinforcements in the foam already. So all you'll need to do is bond (either glue or fillet) them into place and color.
     
  11. el9surf

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    These are the ones Mel made for the shadowcast. I believe they are pvc board glassed in. I added the sea deck and the bungees.

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  12. el9surf

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    The side pictured is really designed for fly rods but I put a spinning reel in there to see how it fit.
     
  13. TheBrazilNut

    TheBrazilNut Guest

    Thanks for posting those pictures. I made made poster board cutouts of my existing rod holders. Now I have been playing around with my design.

    Right side will have 2 fly rods side by side, another under those(Spin/Fly) and a hole at the bottom for my Wang anchor.

    Left side will be the same, but racks closer together like they are now for 7' light spinning rods shotgun style as well.

    Way more rods then I normally fish with during a day.
     
  14. MariettaMike

    MariettaMike Wish'n I was Fish'n!

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    Maybe you could special order these in black.

    http://www.boatoutfitters.com/store/p/308-2-Rod-Gunwale-Mount-Rod-Holder-With-Bungee.html
     

  15. I did order my Expanded PVC Board from them and should be picking it up Thursday as I will already be in Orlando. Close to deciding which style rod rack to go with from the 10 or so styles I have made.
     
  16. TidewateR

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    I will be adding horizontal rod holders to my SUV (rolled gunnels), so I'm curious what you come up with. Keep us posted
     
  17. swaddict

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    are you adding rod tubes too or just different rod holders?
     
  18. No tubes. I could fit 10' Fly rods if needed with no rear deck.
     
  19. Pulled the carpet out and scraped off most of the glue for now. I WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER SKIFF WITH CARPET ON THE GUNNELS!

    I have picked a style of rod holder and will start cutting them out. Basic w/two rods on each side plus a third under or will use to hold a Wang Anchor.


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