line to leader knots

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by brew1891, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. brew1891

    brew1891 Well-Known Member

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    For attaching braid to a flourocarbon leader I have traditionally used the uni to uni knot or double uni as it is also known:

    http://www.netknots.com/html/double_uni_knot.html

    I recently read about the albright knot:

    http://www.netknots.com/html/albright_special.html

    It is simple to tie and was recommended as a way to connect braid to leader. I practiced the knot and confirmed I was tying it correctly. I tried it out Sat on two different rigs, one with 10lb braid and 20 lb leader, the other with 20lb braid and 25lb leader. Both broke at the knot with a fish on! Is it me or does this knot just suck! Is it really intended for just joining mono to leaders? I think the braid was cutting right through the knot.
     
  2. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    I used the Stren knot when testing braided line.

    http://www.angling-adventures.net/knots/knots.htm
     

  3. skinny_water

    skinny_water Well-Known Member

    I use the reverse albright all the time with 8lb Power Pro, (found in the powerpro box when you buy line).  Much like an Albright, but a couple differences.

    http://fishbuzz.tv/index.html?videofile=fishbuzz/how/reverse_albright&channel=how

    A couple key points to this knot.  You don't have to double it. Use 15+turns of the braid over the mono.  Pass your line the opposite direction through your loop of the mono. And for a lock knot instead of tying your loop and tag together I tie a lock knot, I use a triple half hitch to secure it.  Tied properly I have never had one of these come undone.  I break the knot off at the hook first.
     
  4. skinnywater3

    skinnywater3 Well-Known Member

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    I also use the albright, its a great knot.
     
  5. Gramps

    Gramps Living &amp; Dying in 3/4 Time

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    I've never had the albright fail, but only use it with a double line main (bimini) to leader. Inshore I mainly use the uni to uni, never a problem.
     
  6. backwaterbandits

    backwaterbandits Well-Known Member

    I've used the Albright for several years for
    braid to flouro... 15lb braid to 20 or 25lb
    leader with good results. Some like to double
    up the braid but I tie it single to keep the
    knot small.
     
  7. brew1891

    brew1891 Well-Known Member

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    I like the reverse albright in the fishbuzz video. Looks a lot better then a regular albright special.

    Everyone else that chimed in and said they use an albright are you tying the albright as described in my link or like the one in Skinny_Water's post?

    I usually tie a double uni but it is cumbersome on the water when the fish are biting like mad. I like the speed of the albright but the single strands of Suffix were cutting through the Seguar flouro like butter. I also like the small streamlined diameter of the albright style knot.

    I did not tie a lock knot...maybe that was the problem. I thought the braid was cutting the flouro..maybe it was just pulling out under pressure w/o the lock knot.
     
  8. brew1891

    brew1891 Well-Known Member

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    So if I start the braid through the loop from the "bottom" of the flouro loop the braid should exit on the other side of the flouro loop? so that the braid comes in one way and exits another or so that they both exit on the same side of the loop?
     
  9. skinny_water

    skinny_water Well-Known Member

    Give me a little bit to get some line together, I'll do a how to do a reverse albright...the way I know how...
     
  10. skinny_water

    skinny_water Well-Known Member

    It's easy

    http://www.microskiff.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1252875946/0
     
  11. deerfly

    deerfly Opinicus iracibilus

    I'm relatively new to using spectra braid, but attached my mono leaders using an Albright and haven't had any failures, but I've also been tying that knot since 1968 or so. :)

    That said I've found I have to be more careful cinching the knot down than I do with mono though. The braid doesn't seem to stay as organized as mono so I find I need to finesse it a bit as I tighten down to make sure the wraps are clean and don't overlap.

    Another thing is make sure you collapse your leader loop pretty good before you tie, especially on the thicker strengths. I don't use flourocarbon, but I do use Mason hard mono a lot, which is closer to flourocarbon in stiffness and with 40lb+ I crimp that down with pliers before I tie the Albright. Its sort of the same as how you prepare wire leader for an Albright.

    Don't give up, its a fantastic knot and easy to tie once you get the hang of it.
     
  12. iMacattack

    iMacattack busy, too busy

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    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clHNRQ2drBg[/media]
     
  13. deerfly

    deerfly Opinicus iracibilus

    Jan, I haven't watched the video yet, but if it takes 7 minutes and 47 seconds to demo the knot, its too complicated.  ;D
     
  14. iMacattack

    iMacattack busy, too busy

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    he's British... takes em longer to splain something
     
  15. brew1891

    brew1891 Well-Known Member

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    Sweet. Thanks! Definitely different than i was tying it. I will try this way out.
     
  16. Lil_Tate

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