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1.4K views 12 replies 11 participants last post by  Smackdaddy53  
#1 ·
I’ve tied my own leaders for redfish, spec trout, and stripers.
Never really got into using hard mono except for tying weed guards.
Am I correct in using hard mono for the butt section only?
And for larger flies and to get thru the wind?
I welcome your suggestions
 
#2 ·
The only thing that matters is that the flex of the butt section is close to equivalent to that of the fly line. So, if you use hard mono (stiff), you'll be using a smaller diameter/lesser lb test strength than of you use regular mono. Anything stiffer than your fly line will fight the continuation of the loop towards the fly, and too soft doesn't transfer the energy to same (leader hinges/collapses unless you compensate with more power than is needed).

All that said, hard mono butt sections will be smaller diameter (butt section will be smaller diameter than the fly line) and theoretically will have less wind resistance. So your theory could hold true, just as long as the butt section stiffness is the determining factor, not the thickness.

Hope that makes sense. It's been a long day.
 
#10 ·
care to share your usual recipe for chasing permit? I'll be fishing Belize DIY walking and wading flats with SUPs as well. So generally don't need to bomb casts as you can get close to the fish but still searching for a formula that'll turn over flies in the wind better than the off the shelf leaders i've been using. Open to fluoro or mono although I've used fluoro in the past.
 
#5 ·
I use regular ande or cortland mono as it’s more supple and knots better. I have tied whole leaders with hard mono in the past and that was my only issue with it besides the memory. I will from time to time use it as class on my tarpon leaders but normally stick with 12-16lb cortland igfa stuff for everything as I have a pile of it.
 
#8 ·
I like hard Mason for class tippets when tying up big fish leaders - but for the butt section on every one of my flyrods... I'm usually set up with Ande premium (not hard nylon or fluorocarbon...).

One of the great advantages of using hard nylon is that like fluoro all that's needed to almost permanently remove any "memory" curling problems from either material is to stretch it hard and hold it under tension for a moment or two - and that memory problem disappears.. That's one of the reasons that leader stretchers that were so popular years ago - are no longer needed...
 
#12 ·
I like hard Mason for class tippets when tying up big fish leaders - but for the butt section on every one of my flyrods... I'm usually set up with Ande premium (not hard nylon or fluorocarbon...).
similar here, hard mono only comes into play for class on larger rod weights.