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Is anybody else on the FWC email list?

I just love it when a dog finds hidden compartments. Please add FWC phone and email to your phone to report poachers before they can get back to the dock.

FWC arrests poachers for possession of illegal species, including sea turtle


The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) arrested four people over the weekend for possession of undersized and illegal species.

Saturday, as a result of an ongoing marine resource investigation, FWC officers conducted stops on two suspect vessels. These stops revealed undersized and illegal species onboard each vessel.

On one of the vessels, stopped in the Gordon Pass area of Naples, FWC officers located two goliath grouper filets and 86 red grouper. Eighty-five of the red grouper were undersized, some as small as 12 inches. These fish were located in a hidden compartment, which was detected by an FWC K-9.

The second vessel, stopped in the Caxambas Pass near Marco Island, had a similar hidden compartment, which contained parts of a sea turtle, 13 goliath grouper filets, 119 red grouper, five oversized permit and several other fish. Eighty-eight of the red grouper were undersized.

The operators and occupants were placed under arrest for poaching and the vessels were seized. The arrests include David Vazquez (DOB 06/18/1972) of Naples, who was operating the first vessel, and Jorge Escalona (DOB 10/22/1971) who was operating the second vessel. The second vessel had three occupants in addition to Escalona. Two of them were also arrested: Jose Escalona Ferral (DOB 02/27/1970) and Adnier Lobaina Lopez (DOB 02/20/1978). The other occupant, a juvenile, was released to a guardian.

“These arrests illustrate how dedicated FWC is to conserving natural resources in Florida,” said FWC Maj. Alfredo Escanio. “This case is something our officers and investigaters put together over time and serves as an example to others; illegal acts like poaching are a serious threat to resource conservation and will not be tolerated.”

The individuals arrested will face charges including over-the-bag-limit red grouper, undersized red grouper, possession of undersized yellowtail snapper and oversized African pompano, possession of goliath grouper and possession of a marine turtle. Neither operator possessed a commercial fishing license. These charges range from second-degree misdemeanors to third-degree felonies and could carry penalties of up to five years in prison and fines of up to $5,000.

Harvest and possession of goliath grouper is prohibited in both state and federal waters. All sea turtle species in Florida are considered either endangered or threatened and are listed under the Federal Endangered Species Act and Florida’s Marine Turtle Protection Act.

To learn more about salt water fishing regulations in Florida, visit MyFWC.com/Fishing and select “Saltwater Fishing” and “Recreational Regulations.”

To report a fish, wildlife, boating or environmental law violation, contact the FWC’s Wildlife Alert Reward Program by texting or emailing Tip@MyFWC.com, calling 888-404-FWCC (3922) or dialing *FWC from your cell phone.
 
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I honestly had an idea of the criminals origin and then read the names. I was right. Now if they just head to a safe city like Deltona they might get away with it. Do not know if its true, but it would not surprise me. Sorry to offend anyone here but I speak my mind. Seems to me that latin and asian people have no respect for our resources. Not all, but as a whole. Don't let me leave out white trash too.
 
#6 ·
Unfortunately this sort of stuff in ongoing in lots of places - and more than a few of the poachers are doing exactly what their daddies did (don't think it's just immigrants involved).... Hooray for the FWC -things are much better than they were years ago believe it or not. The moment you place a money value on any marine product you'll have those willing to take them any way they can. As a guy who briefly held a commercial hook and line ticket for a few years back in the eighties you'd never believe some of the things I saw in one cooler or other in the kitchens behind some otherwise reputable restaurants.

All of us will teach our kids to respect our resources (I'm doing that now for grandkids....). Every time commercial interests want to get special rules to benefit them - remember - the resource needs to come first, period.

That's one of the reasons I'm a strong CCA supporter and have both donated trips for auction and rounded up other guides to donate as well (in my case that's in more than one state....) for some years now.
 
#7 ·
I can't say what's really on the tip of my tongue other than it's BS. I have lived in Naples my entire life and I have slowly watched the fish numbers dwindle. It's really depressing because I have so many good memories of fishing that can never be experienced again. Some people from up north will disagree, but I know the truth.
 
#9 ·
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I can't say what's really on the tip of my tongue other than it's BS. I have lived in Naples my entire life and I have slowly watched the fish numbers dwindle. It's really depressing because I have so many good memories of fishing that can never be experienced again. Some people from up north will disagree, but I know the truth. 
Same here. I also remember when estero bay had good grass flats before the jet ski tours destroyed them. When we could catch a good amount of fish in rookery bay. Saddening
 
#11 ·
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I can't say what's really on the tip of my tongue other than it's BS. I have lived in Naples my entire life and I have slowly watched the fish numbers dwindle. It's really depressing because I have so many good memories of fishing that can never be experienced again. Some people from up north will disagree, but I know the truth. 
Same here. I also remember when estero bay had good grass flats before the jet ski tours destroyed them. When we could catch a good amount of fish in rookery bay. Saddening
I remember Naples bay having very healthy sea grass beds over 30 years ago. Now it's a chit hole.
 
#12 ·
Thanks for sharing that. I think it's important that there's a perception that enforcement is out there and that consequences are high.

I work as a fisheries scientist, and study regulations and management strategies (I study them, I don't set them). A fair amount of plans that otherwise seem really useful protecting high quality fisheries are perceived to be too hard to enforce given resources available for enforcement.

As an angler, I personally would like to see more enforcement on the water, particularly with respect to illegal take.
 
#13 ·
I honestly had an idea of the criminals origin and then read the names. I was right. Now if they just head to a safe city like Deltona they might get away with it. Do not know if its true, but it would not surprise me. Sorry to offend anyone here but I speak my mind. Seems to me that latin and asian people have no respect for our resources. Not all, but as a whole. Don't let me leave out white trash too.
I guess I should keep an eye out for all latin, Asians, and white trash. Any tips on identifying the white trash? Sometimes they blend in, not all, but as a whole. ;D

For the record, I am not offended by the above statements. I am offended that people break the law and take resources away from the rest of society. A larger investigation should be conducted to see how long they have been illegally harvesting and seize any and all property related to said activities. Any businesses profited from illegal harvest should be subject to criminal penalties as well.
 
#14 ·
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A larger investigation should be conducted to see how long they have been illegally harvesting and seize any and all property related to said activities. Any businesses profited from illegal harvest should be subject to criminal penalties as well.[/quote]

Exactly. The way it works in my industry is OSHA figures out exactly how much you made from breaking the law, multiplies it by 1.5 and then that's the fine. I don't see why the FWC should be any different.
 
#15 ·
I take it y'all haven't met many poachers.... Other than the lobster poachers in the Keys (that had big boats, storefront fish businesses, etc... lobster poaching with casitas was very big business for many years...) most poachers are living "close to the bone". Many are the kind of guys that only have one battery between their broken down old tow vehicle and their boat (seriously, over here in Miami you could see folks that were at one ramp or other and only had one battery between boat and vehicle - you could see at a glance whether they were launching or retrieving by which way the battery was going..).

Now the fish houses and restaurants that buy illegal fish are pretty hard to catch since you'd have to physically inspect their coolers when they had undersized or out of season product in hand.... not so easy. During the years when fish traps were shredding our reefs along the eastern coast you could find folks selling tiny tropicals out of coolers behind the counter of many inner city convenience stores - that's how bad it was.

Like I said, we're in much better shape now -but the FWC still needs our support, particularly when the legislature is deciding how much money they get to keep people on the water. Along with that, of course, you'll end up with things that folks won't like since enforcers will enforce....
 
#16 ·
I honestly had an idea of the criminals origin and then read the names. I was right. Now if they just head to a safe city like Deltona they might get away with it. Do not know if its true, but it would not surprise me. Sorry to offend anyone here but I speak my mind. Seems to me that latin and asian people have no respect for our resources. Not all, but as a whole. Don't let me leave out white trash too.
I guess I should keep an eye out for all latin, Asians, and white trash. Any tips on identifying the white trash? Sometimes they blend in, not all, but as a whole. ;D

For the record, I am not offended by the above statements. I am offended that people break the law and take resources away from the rest of society. A larger investigation should be conducted to see how long they have been illegally harvesting and seize any and all property related to said activities. Any businesses profited from illegal harvest should be subject to criminal penalties as well.

I have to admit, I occasionally do bear a high resemblance to WT wearing my 15 year old shorts and t shirts, so if the shoe fits...

However, the universal language for all of these groups is JAIL TIME. If you can go to the pokie for a few plants of the wacky weed (which I do not condone- now in my 50s, I see who among my friends have had their brains rotted away), why not for abusing the environment? 86 undersized fish in a secret compartment means that this was not the only time.
 
#17 ·
This and all those stories of dudes getting caught bully netting 500 lobster tails in one night piss me off.
Most people will take a lobster that is 1/16 an inch short because they could only get 4 the whole day, but feel really guilty about it. There's a big difference between those people and the guys stuffing 500 short tails deep up into a bilge.
The guys doing the serious poaching get away with it 100 times for everytime they get caught. At that point there still making plenty of money
 
#19 ·
Really there's two types, the guys that might take one illegal fish just for dinner cuz it was a random catch or the "pre meditated poaching".
Obvious pre meditated poaching should have the key for the cell thrown in the ocean
 
#20 ·
It's gonna take at least 1 Judge to grow a set of balls and hand down a severe sentence to get these scum bags attention.
From a criminals perspective the penalty is not a deterrent. As Capt Bob stated some of them have nothing to lose. Its the chances of getting caught that does cross their minds and so they use hidden compartments, decoys, and distribution networks similarly to drug dealers.

As some have previously stated there are more people getting away with it than are getting caught, so its not going to stop.

I'm just happy to see the FWC use the K9 tool that makes poachers have one more thing to think about before they steal public property.
 
#21 ·
The PENALTIES need to to be GREATLY increased, that will make a few wannabes think twice. The scumbags who make their living doing it(including parties who resell) would lose EVERYTHING plus SERIOUS prison time. If the LAWS/PENALTIES increase, the poaching will decrease. Louisiana is proof positive on this subject. Yes, poaching will ALWAYS be around but, it CAN be decreased. More badges on the water and judges with backbone(those who don't take GIFTS from special interests) would definitely be a plus. Good fishing to all (law abiding folks) !!! My [smiley=2cents.gif]
 
#24 ·
There are most always loopholes in the law(which should & could be closed) and some folks do get away with things in re: the real world but, ask an INDIVIDUAL who has lost most/all of confiscated items (in any state) if they are going to risk it a 2nd time! [smiley=1-mmm.gif]
 
#25 ·
"That's what everyone loves to type on a fishy chat room forum
but its not that simple in the real world.
Florida Statute 379.337
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The FWC can seize all the equipment used in the crime which will stay in the possession of FWC till the conclusion of the trial or when a judge issues an order to return it. It is pure laziness on the part of "the brass" not to do it.Usually, the officers are pissed off that it does not get seized.

The legal section will have to prepare paperwork and coordinate w/ the state attorneys office to get it forfeited upon conviction. However, it is not worth the effort unless it is a major violation because of the judges.

The fact that turtle parts were discovered should have gotten the boat seized.Period.

Never mind going w/ federal charges for the turtle violation.

It sends a message when the equipment is seized.
 
#26 ·
There are most always loopholes in the law(which should & could be closed) and some folks do get away with things in re: the real world but, ask an INDIVIDUAL who has lost most/all of confiscated items (in any state) if they are going to risk it a 2nd time!  [smiley=1-mmm.gif]
The loop holes exist because officers that enforce the rules are not involved with the writing of the rules.
The biggest example of this is the lack of uniformity of rules between the different species.

Examples: it is illegal to have grouper fillets w/i a certain distance of the fishing site on land not so w/ snook(last time I looked)
Spanish mackerel possession includes an allowance for crew on charter boats but not for king mackerel

The biggest one is that not all fish are required to remain in a whole condition while on the water..............It has been that way for years...