Would like to know what you are using to tie flies. I have been using a Griffin Patriot Vise for about 30 years. I paid $90 for it back in 1989 and it is a rotary vise and will hold just about any hook and has jaws that came with it for flies using < 22 size hooks. It is still going strong but I have never really liked where it clamps on the hook and have always liked the Renzetti style Travelers vise but not the tension band that it uses. The jaws are really good and you can bend a hook in them without it moving. Has anyone here used the Griffin Odyssey Spider vice and what do you think about it? I know it also has a tension band but it is a bit less money than a Travelers and I already have the base for the Griffin.