Deck Material???

Discussion in 'Boat Yard Basics' started by fish4reds, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. fish4reds

    fish4reds Well-Known Member

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    I am thinking about building a back/poling deck flush with the back seat of my canoe. What I am looking for is the best type of materail, lightest and most durable.
    Curius to see what everyones thoughts are. Oh, and it will be glassed in and painted no mater what the materal.
    Austin
     
  2. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    1/2 inch birch plywood sealed with a layer of 6 ounce fiberglass cloth
    and epoxy, then painted with non-skid interlux

    that's my vote... ;)
     

  3. fish4reds

    fish4reds Well-Known Member

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    Thanks on the birch idea.

    Another question I want to add to this:

    What is the difference between the red fiberglass resin/epoxy and the light brown resin/epoxy?
     
  4. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <


    After building the Grass Slipper (see post "Start from Scratch")
    I will never use anything but epoxy.
    Easy to work with, stronger, waterproof.


    About the red fiberglass,
    that is the result of using a chopper gun to apply fiberglass.
    Not the strongest way to build with fiberglass.
    Just faster and less expensive to work with.

    see info here:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=ileMYXGZ3OQC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=red+thread+chopper+gun&source=bl&ots=GyynPZ-ojV&sig=NeJgDaFOmDO060d7ekm_bG2wmMM&hl=en&ei=NoOtSaf8NJ6DtwfPtIX-BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
     
  5. The_Skiff_Shop

    The_Skiff_Shop Well-Known Member

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    Why not 2 pieces of 1/4" Luan plywood laminated (for a nominal 1/2") with 3mm Sea Dek applied in leiu of the nonskid?
     
  6. fish4reds

    fish4reds Well-Known Member

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    So, epoxy resin combined w/ fiberglass mat is the better way to go. ;)
    Thanks, now back to deck materials
     
  7. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    ;D  That'd work wouldn't it. Exterior grade luan is less expensive than birch.
    Still going to have to seal it either way, and Sea-Dek would look sharp.

    Not mat, 6 ounce fiberglass tooling cloth to strengthen and seal the wood.
    Mat is a filler materal composed of short fibers. The tooling cloth is stronger.
     
  8. The_Skiff_Shop

    The_Skiff_Shop Well-Known Member

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    [smiley=1-thumbsup3.gif]
     
  9. OSWLD

    OSWLD Don't Float the Mainstream

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    a lot of times the red you see in resin is a dye the put in the hardener so you can see how hot your mixture is.
     
  10. paint it black

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    That's what I was going to say.

    What about using starboard for the decking material? I've seen many people use it on the FS forum.
     
  11. Brett

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    Starboard, this I know, not much will stick to starboard.
    So if you are going to try to fiberglass over starboard, good luck.

    http://www.kingplastic.com/InfoCenter/glue.aspx
     
  12. Un-shore

    Un-shore Well-Known Member

    Did you say deck on a canoe? :-/
     
  13. fish4reds

    fish4reds Well-Known Member

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    Yes, just to extend the rear seat back for a larger polling platform.
     
  14. tailchaser

    tailchaser Well-Known Member

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    NOTHING sticks to starboard.. The only product that even claims to somewhat adhere is lifecaulk.. not even 5200.. or epoxy resins
     
  15. paint it black

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    Wow, I had no idea. I had seen a build up of a Carolina Skiff years ago on FS forum where they had said that they made the whole front deck out of starboard and glassed it in. I had no clue what starboard was at the time. Heck, I didn't even know exactly what starboard was until after this thread. I actually looked up on it to see exactly what it is.
     
  16. flaco

    flaco Well-Known Member

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    Why would you want to glass over starboard anyway? Just cut it to size and you're good to go... It's heavy though.
     
  17. mark_gardner

    mark_gardner I Love microskiff.com!

    just wondering why you guys are leaning to the birch? what about good old marine plywood?
     
  18. Brett

    Brett > PRO STAFF <

    Weighs less, costs less, easier to obtain.
     
  19. B.Lee

    B.Lee Well-Known Member

    Starboard is a heavier material given the same relative size as most woods.

    Put me down for the laminuated luan idea. In building my boat, I am leaning toward laminated luan wherever feasible (decks, floors, etc) for it's strength to weight ratio. Very cheap too, on sale at Lowe's for $10/sheet right now. Pick a good piece for the stack, one sheet would be plenty.

    Epoxy is the way to go if you ask me.
     
  20. B.Lee

    B.Lee Well-Known Member

    Good article here:

    http://www.westsystem.com/ss/comparing-cost-and-weight-of-flat-panels/