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I think he's compensating for something :LOL:
Wishing that Alumiduty shell was still made out of steel. I’m in one right now and when it rains you might as well not bother trying to talk on the phone or anything else that requires your full attention. A deer t-boned me a few weeks ago and crumpled the front quarter panel like a beer can…
 

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I will echo Bobs sentiment driving in Miami/South Florida while trailering is a bitch. Case in point, I went fishing with @DBStoots and on the way back this convo came up and Dave was telling me about this time some idiot passed him trailering his skiff on the shoulder. I shit you not within 5 minutes a pimped out Escalade on dubs blows by us on the right shoulder. Startled the shit out of me🤣
I’ve towed a Chittum from the Keys back to Texas up 75 north of Miami and Houston traffic was the worst. I despise that place. The other time I towed one back from Palm City and same thing…Houston traffic gave me a new ulcer. That Florida traffic is something special though, not discounting how crazy people drive there but if you haven’t driven in Houston you should give it a try some time.
 

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Palm city is the boonies around here you want the madness it’s a Miami-Dade thing. You can literally feel it as you cross into dade county. I75 is easy peasy 😜
I purposely bypassed that Miami bullshit. I was in it about 5 years ago and made me never want to go back to that quadrant of Florida…
 

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You should come up here to the 100mph cars racing on I-20 and 285 during the day and night. I drive 75 mph in the 70 zone but almost blown off the road by way faster 80 and 90 cars coming by
We saw three racing going over 100 this afternoon coming back from Atlanta where we had brunch at The Whitehouse restaurant and my wife did some shopping while I napped in the truck
You ever seen a five ton diesel SUV on 35” rubber doing 110? I saw you in my rear view mirror on my way through a while back ole son!
 

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Those giant trucks are not cheap either, add in all the customizations and you're looking at up to six figures and 10+ year loans with shitty interest rates on a depreciating asset.

Have fun with your rolling mortgages I guess :LOL:
If it doesn’t affect you there’s no reason to concern yourself with it. Now if it’s a squatted truck that’s a different story…and if it’s a squatted truck pulling a jet ski burn the whole rig!
 

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Who said I'm concerned about it, I just think it's stupid and this thread is about stupid vehicles. A giant lifted truck on public roads is just as stupid as a squated truck, I don't see how one would be less stupid than the other lol
I guess you have not caught on yet but I like to joke around now and then. Don’t get your panties in a backlash. For the record I don’t give a shit what people drive as long as it’s not putting myself or my family at risk…Or pulling a jet ski…
 

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I don't understand 80K for a new truck and then spend another 10K to 30K on it to be cool.

Hey Man !
Road Trip?
Sure !!
Where to?
Miami to Texas.
Im In ... When do we leave?
Can we take your car?
My truck isn't really set up to go far..... Fuel, Tires, Rough Ride, Noise....You Know!

Can you make a 5K plus trip to somewhere in the new 100K plus truck?
Most Will Say NO
How many people have you asked?
 

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2 at work.
Say the truck is not made to ride a long distance
@CKEAT weren’t we discussing this a while back about your truck? People stereotyping you for having a taller truck with bigger tires? Are you scared to tow your Chittum, a loaded down trailer, travel long distances etc?
I “know” a guy who has done 3500 and 4000 mile round trips fom Texas to the Keys and back in a lifted Excursion on bigger tires and an F350 with a lift and bigger tires towing skiffs back to Texas both times and driven through Miami and made the entire perimeter of Florida. I think he’s about to drive to northern Georgia then down to Boca Grande and back to Texas towing a skiff... No excuses from him either. I’ll see if I can get him to chime in.
 

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Judging by the MPG of my stock F150 3.5L Ecoboost... I can't imagine what it would costs to tow a skiff with 12" lift rolling on 37"s from TX to the Keys.

San Antonio to Key West roundtrip is about 3,000 miles. 7 MPG would be about $1,500 in fuel alone. Add a 1-night hotel each way and you're looking at $1,800 plus the time. I think I'd just leave the skiff at home, take the wife's car for $225 in gas and split charters for 3 days for the same money.
You need to re-gear for better MPG
 

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Going from a 3.73 to a 3.55 in a F150 only yields about a 0.25 MPG improvement.

Usually when you add big tires, don't you usually go up to something like a 4.10 or 4.30 to compensate for the added torque required to get it moving? I don't believe that maintains MPG. Even if you change gearing, you can't improve the degraded aerodynamics.

I have to yet to see any full-size truck return near-stock MPG running a 4" lift and 35" tires. A 12" lift and 37's would kill it. Hell, the increased weight of going form a 40lb P tires to the same size 65lb LT tires on stock suspension will cost you 1 MPG.
I have a 5 ton Powerstroke Excursion with 4” lift, 35” rubber and average 16mpg running my hottest racing tune. Stock 3.73 gearing and when I go to 4.10 it will absolutely improve performance and fuel mileage.
 

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You've got a diesel, too, right? That torque will compensate too, to a degree.
Yes and a custom transmission with some goodies.
Gears can absolutely get you better MPG if you are overloading/dogging the engine and not getting the RPM band there it needs to be. It’s like changing props on an outboard to the correct pitch etc to get the WOT RPM where it needs to be.
 
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