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Guys,

There is big interest in this design and people are trying to get the gut to try this build but are getting stopped dead because of the intimidation.

What if - when you are done with your build - you give/sell the stations to a new guy and let him get over the fear of lofting?

This would clear a big hurdle for some guys, and we would get more skiff porn.

A cheap way to ship them is to bolt them together and ship via Greyhound bus.
 

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I really don't know jack about lofting but,
A. can't you have full size templates printed from CAD?
B. if you really need to learn lofting isn't there a ton of resource online to study these days?
 

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This is a good idea!

Setting up the strongback is a PIA, though I suspect it gets a great deal easier with experience.
 
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Maybe even some thin plastic or silicone type templates? Would be cheaper than shipping the actual stations. And if the material used for templates doesn’t shrink/expand too bad the variance from plans numbers and actual measurements would be well within accepted tolerances!
 

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For me at least, the most intimidating part is the glassing.

I would guess most people that would be interested in this project probably have lots of experience with building things in general, but much less experience with glassing - especially something structural.

Fortunately, there are so many people willing to share their knowledge on the internet! There is a lot of nonsense out there, but if you can weed through it there's plenty of great information too. That, plus Chris's willingness and availability to answer questions, is what really gave me the confidence to dive in!

Assuming you have some decent mechanical/functional experience under your belt, I think the biggest things are having a capable workspace, having at least a handful of the correct tools, having the time to devote to the project, and (most importantly) the humility to ask questions and take suggestions.
 

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To echo what bryson said, the glassing is usually the most problematic part of the build for most of us. Whereas it's so much easier to do w/ 2 people, a logical solution would be to hire someone who knows what he is doing and have him teach you how to do it on your build. Whereas first time builders are prone to using far more epoxy than needed, the money you save on epoxy would probably offset much of what you would have to pay the guy. Doing it this way, I can't see how it would cost more than $300-$400, you would have the benefit of learning to do it right, and in the grand scheme of things is not that big of an expense considering you're probably saving around 35K by doing it yourself.
 

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For me at least, the most intimidating part is the glassing.

I would guess most people that would be interested in this project probably have lots of experience with building things in general, but much less experience with glassing - especially something structural.

Fortunately, there are so many people willing to share their knowledge on the internet! There is a lot of nonsense out there, but if you can weed through it there's plenty of great information too. That, plus Chris's willingness and availability to answer questions, is what really gave me the confidence to dive in!

Assuming you have some decent mechanical/functional experience under your belt, I think the biggest things are having a capable workspace, having at least a handful of the correct tools, having the time to devote to the project, and (most importantly) the humility to ask questions and take suggestions.
 

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Bryson says it perfectly.
For your information, all my plans can be enlarged at a printer to give full size patterns for stations to just trace around. You can also contact my partner Nathan Shawl to make sure you have a CNC router that will fit our cad files. Nathan is fantastic about all that. Go to [email protected]
I will be taking off sailing the last leg of my Pacific voyage singlehanded on Tuesday of this week. It’s 2,800 miles so I might be at sea for 28+ days. No WiFi out here. I can be reached though via my Garmin inReach for questions for builds.
This winter I will be building a couple of skiffs in NC and will be making videos on all aspects of the builds, with all details on the many ways to layup a glass hull in epoxy and in polyester resins. This should help everyone see All the tricks and simple details to show it’s no big deal.
To me the hardest part of these builds is painting the finished product if you have never used a spray gun before. I will show in my videos how to use a gun and how to roll and tip a skiff by hand. It will show you it’s all within everyone’s reach for sure.
I will build my skiffs using epoxy resin and Basalt cloth for the outer hulls skin. Then on the inside I will finish the rest of the builds using basic polyester resin. This will save $ and it will show how easy and fast polyester resin is.
Thanks again for all the interest in these designs. By this fall I will have a dozen designs available from 12’ to 21’ to choose from. By the end of this year there should be enough online info on how to build to help anyone get going.
Keep up the good work
 

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I really don't know jack about lofting but,
A. can't you have full size templates printed from CAD?
B. if you really need to learn lofting isn't there a ton of resource online to study these days?
Certainly. But by reusing the original guy can recoup some expenses and the second guy can shave start up costs.
 

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For me at least, the most intimidating part is the glassing.

I would guess most people that would be interested in this project probably have lots of experience with building things in general, but much less experience with glassing - especially something structural.

Fortunately, there are so many people willing to share their knowledge on the internet! There is a lot of nonsense out there, but if you can weed through it there's plenty of great information too. That, plus Chris's willingness and availability to answer questions, is what really gave me the confidence to dive in!

Assuming you have some decent mechanical/functional experience under your belt, I think the biggest things are having a capable workspace, having at least a handful of the correct tools, having the time to devote to the project, and (most importantly) the humility to ask questions and take suggestions.
I get what you are saying but if you screw up some glassing it is easy to fix. If you screw up the stations and build on it you are screwed.
 

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Thanks again for all the interest in these designs. By this fall I will have a dozen designs available from 12’ to 21’ to choose from. By the end of this year there should be enough online info on how to build to help anyone get going.
Keep up the good work
Where are your plans for sale now? I tried looking at your site, but must have missed the current list.
 

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I plan to buy the book and videos, if reasonably priced, just to learn from someone as experienced as Chris obviously is. Not sure if I will ever have the space to do one myself, but all of these builds look fantastic and would be worth the effort.
 

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So, Mr. Morejohn, as the creator of these designs are you OK with people sharing or selling the plans or stations? I would think that this is considered intellectual property and would be limited to the use of the person who bought the plans. You certainly deserve to benefit fully from these excellent designs and anyone who builds a hull from your plans that they purchase still comes out way ahead.
 

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So, Mr. Morejohn, as the creator of these designs are you OK with people sharing or selling the plans or stations? I would think that this is considered intellectual property and would be limited to the use of the person who bought the plans. You certainly deserve to benefit fully from these excellent designs and anyone who builds a hull from your plans that they purchase still comes out way ahead.
He is sailing now but has actually suggested it if you look through his posts
 

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He is sailing now but has actually suggested it if you look through his posts
OK, I thought it might be copyrighted or trademarked or something. Seems like he deserves to reap the rewards of his expertise and hard work in designing these boats.
 
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