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· Brandon, FL
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With all of the great builds going on at one time it might be an appropriate time to have a discussion.

These builds get people fired up and chase their dream of building a boat or starting a business.

These guys commissioned plans to be drawn up and they set sail full speed ahead. But down the line they got in over their heads and abandoned ship.

https://www.microskiff.com/threads/captive-14-plug-mold-build.58738/

Certainly not trying to belittle anyone but when you try unconventional methods of building your business depends on a plan B.

If you stick with conventional metholds you can get things rolling and then afford some experimenting.

Listen to what others are telling you and you will be fine.

This build certainly is not the lone scenario, there have been quite a few builds where the OP simply disappears and there was a started hull recently for sale.

One of the best builds ever on here stalled and vanished when he was nearly ready to drop a motor on. He was documenting the build on 3 sites and he went dark on all 3 at the same time.

I enjoy the builds as much as everyone else. I don't enjoy watching people go off a cliff or vanish.

Please build responsibly!
 

· Brandon, FL
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If it is the build I am thinking of, I hope he just got tired of the forum life and is out using that boat. I saw it in his garage in person and it was a thing of beauty.

I am now a strong believer in using “low fi” materials to rip out a workboat finished prototype. Even doing this, my build drug on for over three years. The cabinet makers do awesome work initially, but burn themselves out pursuing perfection. I started out with intentions of perfection, but my attention span and actual skills brought me back to reality over the course of the build. It was ultimately for the best; I would otherwise still be reorganizing my sock drawer to avoid fairing my bilges.

Nate
It is Nate. I had communication with him and he was nearing completion of the build and then had all the rigging and he indicated he was mentally cooked. I too, hope he finished because he deserved years of enjoyment.
 

· Brandon, FL
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Here’s the deal: failure is ALWAYS an option. Go nuts, try weird shit. I’m not banking on skiff money... I don’t even want to build the things professionally. It’s hard work and I have the utmost respect for anyone who does. I’m just trying to put something out into the world that addresses so many of the compromises that other companies have made trying to get out there. Foam plug construction is far from an unproven method. Google shows a dozen instances. Climate control, or maybe foam layering method, were the downfall. Oh well. I had a plan B all along, just wasn’t that concerned.
Failure is always an option as you found out and countless others. Foam plugs have been used for many years. I believe the 10wt was built from a foam plug. There is one big difference: the foam you used is uncontrollable upon activation and the expansion is not consistent nor controllable.

Nothing will be gained without someone trying something new, something unconventional. I'm sorry if your feelings are hurt over this but if you go back and read your original thread I was trying to give you some ideas to go along with your unconventional plug build.

Here it is:
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Your making a mess.

Buy something like this https://www.homedepot.com/p/Touch-n...Component-Spray-Foam-Kit-4006022200/204962748 and save time and money.

Cut small boards and glue them to the stations an inch inside the outer edge and then spray. You can use cardboard as well. You have too much space being filled and foam is expensive.

If you don't want to buy it see if there is a foam insulator dude in your area and hire him for 15 minutes.

That is a really cool design. I wish you well with the project.
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I'm not sure why your panties are in a wad over this and spent two years stalking my posts? I sold the Whaler in 2014- 6 years ago. This is not normal behavior for a grown man, its actually frightening.

You have a very nice design. You had good interest in the plans. You had the ambition. This pitfall came along and you quit. You checked out on here and you checked out on your blog. Completely abandoning the project. As you stated about failure- you now have another decision to make. You can go back and follow through on your project; the project can remain abandoned; or you can continue stalking threads. The choice is yours.

Here is more from your original thread:
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My posts may sound like I am sideline quarterbacking you - that is not my intention. My intention is make you think about what you are doing and the ramifications of those actions. This will help you down the road with your business. I realize this is a new endeavor for you and I really hope you make a career of it but you have to make smart decisions so the career will be there for the taking.
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I'll make it easy for the other readers; https://www.microskiff.com/threads/captive-14-plug-mold-build.58738/ . If you go back and read the entire thread you will see where virtually everyone was warning you about what you were doing.

I am not sure why you brought this up after all this time or how you singled me out but your feelings seem to have gotten crushed harder than when the girl in high school kicked you to the curb. You have issues.

If you would like a little encouragement you could always use the forms you have and strip build over it to resurrect the project and maybe see it through to completion.
 
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