Boat Refresh / Removing Rod Lockers

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · Oct 26, 2019 (Edited)

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I hate my rod lockers with passion and my goal is to remove them down the road. Still being in a busier time year for me on the water I can't go to chop crazy just yet so this is where I am beginning. The goal is to remove the old non structural mounting pieces and install stiffer rod holders that will double as gunnel support since I do notice a slight flex with someone larger walking the gunnel.

So far I have used foam to make my forms and fit them to each location then put a layer of glass over them.
The plan from here is to put one more layer of glass on them then cut, sand and fair them out. Then they will be installed with thickened epoxy and tabbed in.

I am open to any thoughts/suggestions.

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lemaymiami

· #2 · Oct 26, 2019

Before you go any further... it looks to me that your "rod lockers" are nothing more than moldings with a door that were added on and fastened into place after the hull with rodholders was completed (at least that's what I believe I'm seeing in your pics...).

Might be a good idea to see if you can just un-screw (or un-bolt) what's there now so that you can better see exactly what's going to be needed to get where you want to go.... I'd also bet that those moldings do add a bit of stiffness to your existing gunnel setup as well...

hope this helps - aren't boats fun?

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 26, 2019

That’s exactly what it is.

Plan is to add these to support the gunnel better and remove the doors. I am aiming to pull up the floor in the coming months and will have one flush floor without the lip the doors screw into on the bottom added back in.

albuilt51

· #4 · Nov 9, 2019

I so no issues with what you want to do. I used foam to stiffen the gunnels on my Gheenoe with excellent results.

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 16, 2019

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So as an update with a rainy weekend ahead I figured I would get a start on this. I cut out the first "support" and began grinding/sanding away. I was surprised to see that the floor inside the rod locker has no core so my plans shifted a little. I am now going to grind it down and put 2 layers of 1708 over it then fair it out for paint.

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The rod holders got their final skim coat of epoxy and will go into a final sand/fair stage next before they are added into the boat once the above stated glass is laid.

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 16, 2019

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Both sides are removed, ground down, and glass patches put in before a fairing coat and a full covering of 1708.

Also today’s boat yard mystery.... why would a builder that advertises full composite construction have wood? Also why was wood found on the starboard side and not port?

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lemaymiami

· #7 · Nov 17, 2019

Real simple answer... anything goes when you’re trying to get a boat done to generate income for some builders... Particularly when it’s in a location where it’s not visible.

You wouldn’t believe some of the crap I’ve seen...

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Fishtex

· #8 · Nov 23, 2019

BrownDog said:
View attachment 101954 Both sides are removed, ground down, and glass patches put in before a fairing coat and a full covering of 1708.

Also today’s boat yard mystery.... why would a builder that advertises full composite construction have wood? Also why was wood found on the starboard side and not port?

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Possible that there has been some “work” done by a previous owner?

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #9 · Nov 24, 2019

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I Sanded the fairing I put in the bottom. Q cells really sand well and I was impressed with how quick it went

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After that I cut 2 layers of 1708 out and laid them in

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 2, 2019

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A little more progress today. I was able to fully remove the starboard locker door, grind the lip down and lay some glass. 2" strip along where the lip was then one full size piece after. All 1708.

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Now for some thinking... The deck needs to be stiffened/enforced over the locker as when I stand on it I get a little less than an inch of deflection.

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 24, 2019 (Edited)

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So this is a lot of work...

I made a few on the fly design changes. I now have the rod holders in which prevent and flexing of the gunnel. Front and rear bulkheads glassed fair to the hull. the deck cut, glassed and faired.

I still need to sand down the fairing coat on the hull sides but that will be seadek covered so I won’t be as particular on it.

After some sanding today I thought I could use some motivation to see what it might look like when finished and to clean it up some for some fishing guests over the holidays. I put a coat of primer over it and it’s really starting to come together.
I feel like I gained a TON of space in the boat.

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bryson

· #12 · Dec 25, 2019

Definitely opens the cockpit up. Looking good!

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 9, 2020

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I’ll do a full write up when all is done, but all structural work should now (hopefully) be complete.
Next is going to be to strip the hull down for more filling and fairing before primer and paint.

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yobata

· #14 · Jan 9, 2020

BrownDog said:
I’ll do a full write up when all is done, but all structural work should now (hopefully) be complete.
Next is going to be to strip the hull down for more filling and fairing before primer and paint.

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No rod tubes/rod cut-outs on the gunnel supports for the port side? I see you have the rod holders on the CC too, so maybe not a big deal, I was just thinking....while you were at it...

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 9, 2020

yobata said:
No rod tubes/rod cut-outs on the gunnel supports for the port side? I see you have the rod holders on the CC too, so maybe not a big deal, I was just thinking....while you were at it...

They just have not been cut out yet. I find it easier to fair out the surface then cut them. Already cut on the starboard side.

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 26, 2020

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Fair, sand, fair, sand...on and on...I swear it never ends.
I took it out of the garage to give it a rinse to remove the dust, then crawled under to start fairing out the oyster rash which I know will only come back quickly.

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BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 3, 2020

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I got the primer on this weekend, at least I can see progress now.

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bryson

· #18 · Feb 3, 2020

In the home stretch now! What's the hole in the deck near the front bulkhead for?

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #19 · Feb 3, 2020

bryson said:
In the home stretch now! What's the hole in the deck near the front bulkhead for?

Deck plate for access to the fuel tank fittings.

BrownDog

Discussion Starter · #20 · Feb 10, 2020

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2 coats in, I think it is good inside but will get one more outside. Lighting doesn’t give a good show of it but it is ice blue hull and whisper grey deck.

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