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Wondering if anyone can provide any insights on a couple of 9wt rods I’m interested in for a permit rod. I have a good 8 and 10 setup but was thinking about either a scott sector or Helios 3D in 9wt to round out my flats setups. Any experience with either one of these would be appreciated. Thanks
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Have cast both for me no question sector - I can cast further with greater accuracy with it. BUT you need to find a place to try or be more specific in what you like or want. Both are very nice rods.
 

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Have cast both for me no question sector - I can cast further with greater accuracy with it. BUT you need to find a place to try or be more specific in what you like or want. Both are very nice rods.
Thanks for the reply Jamie. I do like Scott rods and have a couple. I have been a bit confused on the reviews for sector...I’ve seen where some think it’s a much stiffer faster rod than meridian but other reviews say it’s softer and not as powerful. Unfortunately the shop I have credit with doesn’t allow testing. I had a meridian in but preferred the slightly faster action of my G loomis NRX and sold the meridian. Do you have any insights on how they compare to meridian or NRX? Thanks again
 

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I can’t comment on the Sector but watch out for the reel seat on those Scott rods. I recently got a 10 Wt Meridian that I was planning to use with a new Lamson Cobalt 10 reel. My trip was coming up and I decided to test the rod and reel combo. I discovered that the reel seat was too tight in the recessed hood and it was not accepting my new Cobalt reel. I had to scramble quickly and find a reel that would fit on the Meridian. I tried my Galvan but it was still barely going under that recessed hood in the seat. I was lucky to have my old Tibor Riptide with me. That was the only reel I had that went under the hood and I felt safe to use. This is the second problem I run into with Scott reel seats - even in different rod models. The Cobalt 10 fits nicely in the NRX 10. That is the rod I decided to bring on this trip. My Meridian is sitting at home and I will probably sell it when I return.
 

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so I like fast rods - sage method and one and now the x. The sector, to me in the 9wt is faster and more accurate than the meridian - I'd swapping my meridian out fo a sector. But if you want fast... would seriously look at the ignitor in the 9. Holy Cannon... for the 8 wt... think I;m going to swap my meridian for an Asquith...
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Thanks for the reply Jamie. I do like Scott rods and have a couple. I have been a bit confused on the reviews for sector...I’ve seen where some think it’s a much stiffer faster rod than meridian but other reviews say it’s softer and not as powerful. Unfortunately the shop I have credit with doesn’t allow testing. I had a meridian in but preferred the slightly faster action of my G loomis NRX and sold the meridian. Do you have any insights on how they compare to meridian or NRX? Thanks again
What shop doesn’t let you try before you buy?
 
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Wondering if anyone can provide any insights on a couple of 9wt rods I’m interested in for a permit rod. I have a good 8 and 10 setup but was thinking about either a scott sector or Helios 3D in 9wt to round out my flats setups. Any experience with either one of these would be appreciated. Thanks
No opinion from a fellow member can take the place of your going out and test casting each rod. Have a shop place masking tape over each label so that you can have a truly unbiased test session. You may also find [assuming that you're at a fly shop] that some lesser priced rods better suit your casting style. Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the reply Jamie. I do like Scott rods and have a couple. I have been a bit confused on the reviews for sector...I’ve seen where some think it’s a much stiffer faster rod than meridian but other reviews say it’s softer and not as powerful. Unfortunately the shop I have credit with doesn’t allow testing. I had a meridian in but preferred the slightly faster action of my G loomis NRX and sold the meridian. Do you have any insights on how they compare to meridian or NRX? Thanks again
You should find another shop! I've never heard of such a policy!:mad:
 

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You should find another shop! I've never heard of such a policy!:mad:
Well I’m going off what one of the shop employees said. It may change if I spoke with a manager. Also they would have to order a rod for me...it’s not a true fly shop and they don’t keep a lot in stock. I’ll see if they can get some 9wts in when they reorder this spring.
 
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Well I’m going off what one of the shop employees said. It may change if I spoke with a manager. Also they would have to order a rod for me...it’s not a true fly shop and they don’t keep a lot in stock. I’ll see if they can get some 9wts in when they reorder this spring.
That's hopefully the case. Ck. with the manager. There's so much competition for our dollars that if one shop doesn't take care of you, the next one will be glad to.
 

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Well I’m going off what one of the shop employees said. It may change if I spoke with a manager. Also they would have to order a rod for me...it’s not a true fly shop and they don’t keep a lot in stock. I’ll see if they can get some 9wts in when they reorder this spring.
If you don't mind me asking how did you get the credit and how much is it? I can PM you the name of a shop that will send you two rods and you can return the one you don't like. This is a brick and mortar fly shop.

I will buy rods untested if they are half off used or discontinued. That's a big risk for a full price rod.
 

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If you don't mind me asking how did you get the credit and how much is it? I can PM you the name of a shop that will send you two rods and you can return the one you don't like. This is a brick and mortar fly shop.

I will buy rods untested if they are half off used or discontinued. That's a big risk for a full price rod.
500 in the form of a gift card.
 

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I’ve owned and casted plenty of saltwater rods and I feel like all decent rods can perform pretty well for a decent caster. My though with a 9 wt was may a long game/wind specialist. Based on the scott rods I’ve used that’s not typically the type of performance I’ve seen. I’ll try to get my hands on an igniter or Helios 3D at some point. Heck if I love my NRX+ 8wt that I’m waiting on I may just go with that on a 9
 

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I’ve owned and casted plenty of saltwater rods and I feel like all decent rods can perform pretty well for a decent caster. My though with a 9 wt was may a long game/wind specialist. Based on the scott rods I’ve used that’s not typically the type of performance I’ve seen. I’ll try to get my hands on an igniter or Helios 3D at some point. Heck if I love my NRX+ 8wt that I’m waiting on I may just go with that on a 9
I tried a bunch of 9 wts last year at a local shop. Indoors at 50' with some fluff tied on (i.e. not a crab). I had something against the Orvis HD3 from the get go. Maybe it was the new label or maybe they didn't have a big enough presence on Instagram. Every other rod took me a few casts to get figured out and I didn't bother figuring out a few. The HD3 hit the target easily on every cast. I moved on since I really had my heart set on something else. I just had to smile when the guy at the fly shop raised his eyebrow like, "really?!?!"

Sold the rod I chose within a year. I've been all over the place and have finally settled down.

For me, with practice it is possible to get distance out of a slower rod. It's harder to get good accuracy and presentation in close with a faster rod, even with practice.
 
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