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      Don't cripple yourself with a vice, learn how to tie by hand.

      You need a Bobbin to hold the thread, preferably with a ceramic tube or tube end. The thread won't break as easy with the ceramic. Scissors, like from the Sewing department at Walmart, 5", 6" or 7" with fine pointed tip (see link below). You don't need to spend over $10 for very good scissors. A bodkin or just a needle. You can glue a sewing needle into a little piece of a wooden dowel with a small hole in the end. That's pretty much it. You don't need a whip finisher if you learn how to do it by hand. If you decide you need a vice (it will make it easier), then look at a rotary. My first vice was a Griffin Patriot, it will hold any hook you want. When buying a vice you want to be able to bend the hook without it slipping. Cheap vices can't do that. Extra stuff that will help: mini clothespins, paper clips, plastic straws (pieces) a whip finisher, if you just can't do it buy hand, and maybe a dubbing twister (paper clips work). I use Hard as nails for head cement and Loctite Gel super glue when desired.

      For learning, your first fly should be a Lefty's deceiver. I am not going into fly materials and all that because the only way to learn is to just start doing it and if you can find a book or video on a Lefty's deceiver, it will tell what you need to make it. Start from there. You can use those materials for a dozen other types of flies.

      Remember this before you get started:
      I have thousands of dollars worth of fly tying material to make a hundred dollars worth of flies.

       
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      Don't cripple yourself with a vice, learn how to tie by hand.

      You need a Bobbin to hold the thread, preferably with a ceramic tube or tube end. The thread won't break as easy with the ceramic. Scissors, like from the Sewing department at Walmart, 5", 6" or 7" with fine pointed tip (see link below). You don't need to spend over $10 for very good scissors. A bodkin or just a needle. You can glue a sewing needle into a little piece of a wooden dowel with a small hole in the end. That's pretty much it. You don't need a whip finisher if you learn how to do it by hand. If you decide you need a vice (it will make it easier), then look at a rotary. My first vice was a Griffin Patriot, it will hold any hook you want. When buying a vice you want to be able to bend the hook without it slipping. Cheap vices can't do that. Extra stuff that will help: mini clothespins, paper clips, plastic straws (pieces) a whip finisher, if you just can't do it buy hand, and maybe a dubbing twister (paper clips work). I use Hard as nails for head cement and Loctite Gel super glue when desired.

      For learning, your first fly should be a Lefty's deceiver. I am not going into fly materials and all that because the only way to learn is to just start doing it and if you can find a book or video on a Lefty's deceiver, it will tell what you need to make it. Start from there. You can use those materials for a dozen other types of flies.

      Remember this before you get started:
      I have thousands of dollars worth of fly tying material to make a hundred dollars worth of flies.

      I’m not sure that I agree on tying by hand! It can be done but it’s far too great a challenge for someone just starting out. The rest of your points are spot on!
       
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