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conversion build of Fs 18 to pelican ambush style skiff
Feb 28th, 2012 at 8:29pm
 
I have all the materials to build the Fs 18( http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=FS18 ).I have decided I want to build a smaller skiff and found the pelican ambush ( http://www.pelicanflatsboats.com/pelicanflatsboats/Ambushgallery.html#1 )I was wondering if it was possible and if any body had any thoughts or ideas on were to start.
Thanks josh
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Re: conversion build of Fs 18 to pelican ambush style skiff
Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 8:35pm
 
Welcome to the forum...Is it possible? Definitely!
Start by building a half scale model to learn the process cheaply.
What length are you looking to build?
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 8:58pm
 
I'm thinking around 14 ' I really like the personal skiff idea I'll start by making a model
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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 10:16pm
 
I actually own the ambush light version and have enjoyed the simplicity of the skiff every time that I have taken it out. I only use the troll and pole method and have found it maintenance free which I really enjoy. An outboard is surely a positive as far as range goes but I like it simple. From the NMZ to the skinny water, you will enjoy the open layout and design. If your ever in the Orlando area then pm me and you can come check one out in person...
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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 10:43pm
 
Not a bad idea but i think you'd be better off scaling up a jemwatercraft paddle board than scaling down a fs18. Check it out     http://www.jemwatercraft.com/PaddleBoard.php
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Re: conversion build of Fs 18 to pelican ambush style skiff
Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2012 at 9:00pm
 
Yeah I think a combo of the jemwater paddle board and the fs 18 would be exactly what I want
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Reply #6 - Mar 3rd, 2012 at 8:52pm
 
I understand how you feel.  I love the concept of the Ambush although I've never seen one in person yet.  After seeing those videos of the Ambush with a 6 HP on it, I keep second guessing my current build. 

Gator Boat Co. has a very, very, very simple plan for a flat back pirogue that they call a "Cajun Skiff".  It can be built 12-16' long.  It would fill the niche you are looking at perfectly.  I think it is 12" deep as designed, so I don't think you'd need to lower the sheer, but it is more seaworthy than a paddleboard. 

I wouldn't scale down the FS18 because some of the design features that make it a great 18' boat are a waste of build time on a 14' boat that is designed around simplicity.  Additionally, that is more than a 10% change in length, so the end result will end up being heavier than it has to be.

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Re: conversion build of Fs 18 to pelican ambush style skiff
Reply #7 - Mar 4th, 2012 at 8:26am
 


   I was at the Frank Sargeant Show in Tampa
   yesterday and checked out the Pelican booth.
   The Pelican flats is a really nice boat...
   Check them out if you get the chance.
   They also have a couple of their Ambush model 
   on display... They are a well built little boat
   as well...Pretty cool!
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Reply #8 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 9:51am
 
Nate thanks for the info on gatorboats. I do like the cajun skiff I think I might widen it and maybe add a floor . I can use okume plywood so I don't think weight we be an issue.
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Reply #9 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 10:55pm
 
Well I think I found perfect mix of boats http://www.unclejohns.com/bysk14/UJbayouskiff.htm. plans are one the way!
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Reply #10 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:15pm
 
I think you should get an Ambush...but I am definitely biased on the topic.
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Reply #11 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:30pm
 
jrkayakin80 wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 10:55pm:
Well I think I found perfect mix of boats http://www.unclejohns.com/bysk14/UJbayouskiff.htm. plans are one the way!


that hull has a rocker...it will not plane off...and i certainly would not put a very big outboard on it...i think a 2 or 3 hp to putt putt a lil faster than a trolling motor is about all it can handle..
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Reply #12 - Jul 30th, 2012 at 12:27am
 
Cant you reduce the rocker by widnening the transom?
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Reply #13 - Jul 30th, 2012 at 1:55am
 
Looks like it might be tough to fish out of, look at him sitting on the bow, she got her a$$ in the air! Why not just build a wooden kayak?
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Re: conversion build of Fs 18 to pelican ambush style skiff
Reply #14 - Jul 30th, 2012 at 1:29pm
 
That boat has a lot of rocker in it, widening the transom won't really help that. I agree with TL, it looks like it might be odd to fish out of.

Why not go with another bateau.com design since you already have there materials? What about there new SUP design or fishing yak?
http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=30201

http://www.bateau.com/studyplans/PY12_study.htm
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